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By George, some have got it

10 Feb

Bravo – Finally, some sense from two Prune posters.  At long last, after only 3181 posts, sweet logic, pragmatic professional thinking and cool sense prevail; finally.  Halle-bloody-lujah… 😀 .. Ian W – Pprune – At one stage in my ‘career’ I qualified as an ISO-9000 auditor. One of the things that was expressed to me […]

Who-dunnit and why

09 Feb

Senator Fiona Nash, keeper and minder of ‘Pete’ the agnostic pot plant is one of the  acknowledged favourites of the IOS was the last in a long list of people who have asked ‘the question’.  Every single member of the Senate committee which investigated the Pel-Air debacle, the Rev. Forsyth and even the Canadian TSBC […]

TransAsia data

08 Feb

Both Taiwan’s Aviation Safety Council and Civil Aeronautical Administration (CAA), both deserve praise and are setting an example.  Within a very short space of time, they have confirmed the ‘Tower – Flight’ transcript and provided as much reliable flight path and technical data as is possible, considering the circumstances.  Well done Taiwan… The graphics provided […]

Fairwell & Godspeed

08 Feb

Tribute to Sally! Shane (aka Justiceseeker),Sad time of the year for you mate (approaching the ninth anniversary of the Lockhart River tragedy), will miss your 10pm phone rants and your posts/PMs as JS (and your other more illustrious alias..). Perhaps my post from the infamous (original) Senate thread highlights your tenacity for seeking Justice for […]

8. Feb, 2015 Is Eddie Dean a troll (Creamy seems to think so) ?? – Stby for IOS verdict.

08 Feb

Quote: Slatts11, it would appear that Nick got his 15 minutes of fame over the senate inquiry and has now moved on to bigger and better things. Eddie I’m not so sure about that, have a look here: Quote: Senator Xenophon queries political donations by regional airline Rex INDEPENDENT senator Nick Xenophon has called large […]

Norfolk ditching Round 2

08 Feb

more news» The Last Minute Hitch: 6 February 2014 New Format to add Challenge to 2015 Red Bull Series Australia to get busy with WOAW B-52s to return to Australian International Airshow ATSB to feel PAIN over Pel-Air Investigation 19 Jan 2015   A confidential group known as the Professional Aviators Investigative Network (PAIN) has […]

TransAsia – Consider options

08 Feb

Ben Sandilands Posted February 7, 2015 at 1:53 pm | Permalink An experienced pilot who doesn’t wish to comment in his own name or using an alias has offered the following perspective, which I think makes some persuasive observations: When I did my multi engine rating, my instructor strongly emphasised that the actions after engine […]

The Unspeakable Pprune

06 Feb

Welcome to our New Website … It’s complete! 🙂  and more blog posts to come! … Please feel free to comment and share… We note the unspeakable Pprune web site continues it’s mindless descent into becoming a bland, politically correct, edited, moderated and censored mouthpiece for the ‘vested interest’ society.  At least on the Australian […]

The World at the back of the room!

06 Feb

Quote: Sunny: Net result of CASA corruption and incompetence will be higher insurance premiums for Australian registered aircraft compared to other developed countries. Which supports the BRB hypothesis that M&M & co seek to decimate the GA industry in this country… On a slightly different tack I noticed some interesting obs by Dougy in his […]

Lock up your daughters, hide your gold.

06 Feb

Lock up your daughters, hide your gold. Beware world – the ex director and author of the great Australian aviation tragedy McComic  is vying for a seat at ICAO.  First Australia, then world domination by a man who created the infamous Cathay Pacific 49′ ers saga, engineered the great Pel-Air duck up, compromised the industry […]

Tendentious Bloggers Association & IOS – Archive

05 Feb

Day 2 – PelAir v Karen Casey & Dr David Helm via Anthony Klan Pilot lashes out at air-safety watchdogs’ crash report February 04, 2015 12:00AM Anthony Klan Journalist Sydney THE two government agencies responsible for policing aviation “publicly lied” about the full circumstances of a 2009 Pel-Air crash off Norfolk Island, the plane’s pilot […]


05 Feb

It’s way too early for technical theory and chest beating hypotheses; but a little operational ‘savvy’ may provide the first clues.   Finally, I found a soupcon of calm, professional analysis on Pprune. BG 47 – “If you look at the flight route that was posted above, it looks like the crew was attempting to follow the […]

Ventus: “There is no evidence your Honour..”

03 Feb

NB: The following is a Prune NFI thread post from ventus45 submitted this am (03/02/15)..  halfmanhalfbiscuit Quote: CreampuffYou don’t know, for sure, what weather information was transmitted to and understood by the crew.What we do know, for sure, is that there were patent errors in the weather information transmitted to NGA, and that there are […]

How the game is played

02 Feb

The end game of the Pel-Air debacle is about to played out in the Australian courts today; they provide a demonstrated, documented and examined insight into what can happen in the aftermath of an accident investigation.  The events which have occurred and continue to generate outrage in Australia provide some unpalatable food for thought for […]

@P2 for Ziggychick – “Go you good thing!”

01 Feb

Mighty Pissed Off: Take Two… An old post for some clarification. I believe that now is the time for all the trolls and moderators to dig deep, some very deep, into their humanity strand of DNA. Understandably some are more evolved than others, very clear from the eyes that’s that have seen the absolute evidence […]

Of games and candles

31 Jan

Spare a thought.  Sitting alone in her garden this morning is a brave women beset by doubt, anxiety and anger facing what must be, for a mother, the most difficult of decisions.  Karen Casey physically injured through no fault of her own in the Pel-Air air accident, a ditching which could have been prevented, must […]

CASA: Pelair 2008 audit and 2009 special audit

31 Jan

Its worth having another look at the March 2008 audit of PelAir. 1. An audit had been planned in October 2007, but this audit was terminated as the majority of pilots did not submit their logbooks. The audit was rescheduled for 12-13 March 2008. Page 3. 2. PelAir hasd been operating under a Fatigue Risk […]

A twiddle for discussion

31 Jan

When Sherlock Holmes said:-‘It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.‘ – He may well have been talking about the brouhaha surrounding MH 370.  There are as many persuasive, carefully worked out, ‘supported’ theories floating about in […]


29 Jan

From what is in the public domain, it appears the only source of information being used to define the search area is the Inmarsat data. The problem with this data is it generates a multitude of possible solutions, resulting in an enormous search area. If the current search does not turn up MH370, we will […]

Sunfish on corruption at Aviation House.

29 Jan

Could anyone be forgiven for thinking that Rex threw $250,000 at the Ministers political party, but not of course the Minister, before the ATSB report was released to make sure that the ATSB and CASA blamed the pilot and not Pel AIr for the incident?Could anyone be forgiven for thinking that Rex then threw money […]

Crikey – Planetalking

27 Jan

Crikey – Planetalking Sketchy Pel-Air crash investigation raises uncomfortable questions for deputy PM There’s plenty to worry about when it comes to crash investigation in Australia’s aviation industry — not that you’d know it from the minister’s interest in the subject. How long can Warren Truss, the deputy PM, leader of the Nationals, and minister responsible for […]

Sunfish explains

27 Jan

I am going to make the assumption that you are a genuine seeker of truth and not some troll and attempt to explain why you are completely wrong in your belief that the words don’t matter. Ultimately all CASA strategy, policy and regulation activities must conform to the intention of Parliament when they made the […]

Peeler, CASA, and ATSB – the movie

27 Jan

Top stuff @slats11 :  Someone suggested this saga could be the basis for a future Australian movie. To assist any scriptwriters out there, I offer the following: 1. There was a routine CASA audit of PelAir scheduled for October 2007. This had to be re-scheduled as the organisation could not provide sufficient paperwork to allow this […]

Sarcs inbox: OBs from the Ferryman

27 Jan

Sarcs inbox: OBs from the Ferryman Quote: Well Sarcs, since Jan 21 to date your revitalisation of the Pprune Norfolk ditching thread has generated 12,000 views. I noted yesterday there were during the afternoon some 700 (650 – 780) ‘visitors’ as against 50 (35-50) ‘members’; a quick review of the members showed 74% non commentators […]

Cui Bono

27 Jan

Cui Bono? I read with interest how many people on ‘Twitter’ are concerned with ‘human suffering’ on both a small and a large scale, selflessly, often without a prayer of changing anything.  This makes it incredibly important that when something can be done, a wrong can be righted if you like, we should whenever and […]

Cruise conversation 1

26 Jan

I agree with P9; as the PAIN network senior 777 captain there are some questions which we have been discussing amongst ourselves, we believe the answers are important.  It is the direct involvement of the ATSB rather than AMSA that provides an element of suspicion which impinges on and detracts from the credibility of any […]

And out through the daemons arse

26 Jan

And out through the daemons arse. I have now diligently head scratched, cussed and finger counted my way through many of the ‘analysis’ made of AA QZ 8501; and, apart from a headache, an urge to scream and a dire need for large quantities of amber nectar, I find there is little ‘conclusive’ being published; […]

Will the real tendentious bloggers please stand up

25 Jan

or: Willyleaks email 1313. Subject: STFU. Date:13/13/14 From: Grown up search boss. To: TB #1.Shut down that Blog and STFU you embarrassing, moronic specimen.L&K Lord A. Subject: STFU. Date:13/13/14 From: TB#1. To: Lord A. Yes Sir: Click – Comments closed. – – – – – – – – – — – – -……… Dear Mr […]

The McComics are coming

25 Jan

With the Bar Room Barristers (BRB). Once in while there’s a few of us get together at a convenient pub and discuss matters aeronautical (No, darts and beer have nothing to do with it, shame on you); last evening was such an occasion.  One of the topics, naturally enough was the disappearance of MH 370, […]

Zippyshare Downloads

25 Jan

Zippyshare I managed to stuff up the links for the Zippyshare downloads.  My apologies to all…. I believe they are ‘fixed’ now.  Please be careful with the Zippy share down load page; only click the ‘Download Now’ button to avoid the spam and advertising (unless you like that kind of thing)…. Sunfish, aka Sunny on […]

The Skygods are bored??

24 Jan

Comment: Being mischievous here but PAIN is generally speaking boycotting Pprune except for this thread – Norfolk Island Ditching ATSB Report – ? -which we recently brought to life again with this post:- The Skygods are bored?? Apparently the regular Skygod readers had become bored with the Merged: Senate Inquiry thread & therefore the powers to be have decided […]

Weekly wrap 19-26 Jan ’15

24 Jan

This week around the traps was surprisingly busy considering most of Canberra is still in a slumber… The 1st cab off the rank was Oz Flying with – believe it or not – an article titled – ATSB to feel PAIN over Pel-Air Investigation. That’s right PAIN actually made the news… Quote: 19 Jan 2015 […]

Simply Marvellous Horse-pooh (SMH)

24 Jan

Simply Marvellous Horse-pooh (SMH). SMH Quote: SMH: The 57-year-old is helping solve what remains the greatest aviation mystery of all time: the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. This, all without any technical qualification (NFI in industry parlance). Doesn’t it therefore qualify (technically) as a ‘porky’? – in light of the Senate report of the […]

Continued/- 19-26 January ’15

24 Jan

Continued/- 19-26 January ’15 Also this week there was a bit more on the Jabiru debacle… First was this from MMSM Steve – Jabiru Aircraft says CASA rules put Australia manufacture at risk. And today there was this from the Bundy local rag – Jabiru owner says CASA rules have damaged reputation: Quote: JABIRU Aircraft owner […]

Back in the day

24 Jan

Back in the day. The commendable last minute Hitch articles in Australian Flying are always worth the time, the last published 23/01/15 very neatly sums up the re opening of the Pel-Air investigation. The analogy of a ‘Fisher King’ wound is apt, but IMO stops just of the approaching the ‘big’ issues, for it will not only […]

The art of discreet distance

23 Jan

The art of discreet distance. I find it amazing that the public image sensibilities of those advertising on the P{p}rune website are so insensitive.  Surely censorship and ‘moderation’ of sensible posts which only ask questions being ‘moderated’ and ‘hits’ being selectively counted, to a fare thee well must raise some advertising eyebrows.  There is a […]

Forget It

23 Jan

Forget it. Your indulgence requested, I am still clumsy with the brand new ‘Blog’ and Twitter toys. P{prune looses more credibility as the Trolls and catamites of ‘vested interest’ move in.  When the Senate Inquiry ‘conversation’ was closed after severe ‘hits editing’ which failed, and was forced to accede (fold) under pressure from those with […]