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The area in question where this abhorrent crime was committed was a hotbed of activity. There were already plenty of 'eyes in the skies', and plenty of satellite and drone activity as well as ongoing intelligence. Within minutes of the aircraft being destroyed the analysts were on the job pulling footage, analysing rocket heat signatures, smoke trails and spirals, and satellite data. We didnt need to wait two years for this report.

Several points out of the MH17 investigation that I see are;

1. No amount of probing, investigating or discussions about this barbaric act will bring the dead loves back. Why make us wait 2 years?

2. International world powers knew within hours what had happened, who did it, and how they did it. Why make us wait 2 years?

3. Nobody will dare speak out against the Russians and actually take action against them for this crime. There will be lots of 'tough talk' but it's all part of the charade. Why continue with this limp wristed farce?

Why has this world descended into a terrorist tolerant spineless society who is too preoccupied in political correctness and capitulating to murderers, thugs, terrorists, and scum that should be snuffed out by repetitive drone strikes with high yield payloads??

Very well said Gobbles...

Via the Oz today somewhat ironically shows that for all his faults, failings & histrionics, including threatening to shirt front Putin, former PM Tony Abbott has stood steadfast to the belief that Putin should be held accountable for the downing of MH17:

MH17: Tony Abbott urges Vladimir Putin to come clean

Latest Update: Via the Oz

‘Lockerbie-style tribunal’ to deliver MH17 justice




Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said yesterday it was vital to identify the individuals responsible and pursue prosecutions against them. Picture: Julie Kiriacoudis

• Brendan Nicholson, Joe Kelly
  
• The Australian
  
• 12:00AM October 3, 2016
  
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Justice for the 298 passengers and crew killed by the Russian missile that destroyed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 could be delivered by a Lockerbie-style tribunal or through a criminal prosecution launched in The Netherlands.

A multinational Joint Investigation Team confirmed last week that the airliner, carrying 298 ­people including 38 Australian residents, was hit by a missile brought from Russia into an area of the eastern Ukraine held by pro-Moscow rebels.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said yesterday it was vital to identify the individuals responsible and pursue prosecutions against them. Ms Bishop also warned that “all out war” would erupt between the US and Russia in Syria if the Americans bombed Assad government forces.

According to the World Health Organisation, attacks by Russian and Assad forces on rebel-held areas of the Syrian city of Aleppo over the past week killed 338 people, more than 100 of them children.

Targets reportedly included two large hospitals hit by barrel bombs — drums of explosives pushed out of helicopters.

Labor’s foreign affairs spokeswoman, Penny Wong, offered Ms Bishop the opposition’s strong support for efforts to prosecute those responsible for the downing of MH17. Ms Bishop told the ABC’s Insiders program it was critical to identify those responsible within the chain of command in the Russian military as well as those involved in the operation of the missile.

“I expect that, by the end of the year, maybe earlier next year, the list of those we believe should be held accountable will be confirmed and then there must be a prosecution,” Ms Bishop said.

She urged Russia to ensure those responsible were held to ­account but said Moscow was likely to veto attempts to gain United Nations Security Council approval for prosecutions.

An option was a Lockerbie-style prosecution by an international tribunal along the lines of that which followed the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland on December 21, 1988, she said. Another was for domestic prosecutions in a country such as The Netherlands where most of the MH17 victims lived. That could succeed as long as prosecutors had powers of extradition and it would cover the interests of all 298 victims, Ms Bishop said.

Asked what the consequences would be if the US began bombing Assad government forces in Syria, Ms Bishop responded: “That would be an all-out war. We are currently seeing a proxy war ­between Russia and the US and other players in this disaster but I urge all of the parties to continue to talk.”

Ms Bishop said she did not believe there would be a military solution but an option would be an arms embargo with both sides withdrawing military support from the regime and from the ­opposition groups to force them to the negotiating table.

She said she had witnessed two meetings between Russian ­Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry and it was clear all trust ­between the two nations had broken down.

“Neither side trusts the other side and while ever the Assad ­regime, backed by Russia and Iran, believes that it can win militarily over the opposition groups backed by the US and the Gulf countries, the killing and the war will continue,” Ms Bishop said.

“Likewise, the opposition groups believe that they can defeat the Assad regime militarily.”

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