Part 61 - For Dummies.
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(05-05-2015, 07:48 AM)P7_TOM Wrote:  Dick Smith is leading from the front again – ADS again, which led to CASA comment again, which brings out the Casamites; all quite amusing.  

Pinched this from the UP – LS - always worth reading:



Quote:Folks,

The bigger problem with Part 61/141/142 is complying at all, at any cost, and the ongoing costs of keeping licenses current under the "new system" is horrifying.

CASA must be forced to comply with its own manuals and mandatory Government policy, including genuine cost/benefit analysis at the beginning -- and this need amendment to S.9A of the Civil Aviation Act 1988 to make it really stick. By the time you get to a RIS it is too late.

Tootle pip!

We hear there is to be a letter despatched (if not posted already) to all FOI stating categorically, it is not industry's fault that 61 is becoming a national disaster and 'we' are to get assistance rather than show cause for non compliance.  The alarming thing is that 'the letter' seems to indicate that 61, as writ, is here to stay – Gods help us.

The top floor, full dress meeting, scheduled for this week is one small window for change.  Let us all pray, to whatever pagan gods amuse best, that with the imminent departure of a very large obstacle to 61 being thrown out, good sense and reason will prevail.  Just ring NZ borrow theirs; Nigeria would help; PNG would help; Fiji would help.  Hells bells, my Grandmamma could write a better rule set than the pathetic crew who cobbled the existing ego fantasy, promising the world and delivering an atlas.  

Breathless with anticipation the crowd awaits Terry's departure.  Amen to that....
 
From the Australian Aviation today... Confused

Quote:CASA seeking feedback on Part 61

May 5, 2015 by Jordan Chong Leave a Comment
[Image: PHAN8244.jpg]Civil Aviation Safety Authority boss Mark Skidmore has written to pilots seeking their feedback on the implementation of the new Part 61 regulations.

Part 61, which was introduced in September 2014, has caused consternation among sectors of the aviation industry which has prompted CASA to make adjustments to how these new suite of regulations for ratings, licences and endorsements are being implemented.

Speaking to reporters during a conference call on Tuesday, Skidmore said CASA had already received about 10 emails from pilots since the letter was posted on April 23, offering suggestions or questions on topics such as ratings and endorsements, suggestions for medical tests and flight reviews and the format of the licence, among other topics.

Skidmore, who started as Director of Aviation Safety in January, acknowledged CASA had not implemented Part 61 “as well as we should have”.

While he believed the regulator was coming to grips with the major concerns out there in the community, more feedback was needed.

“Communication is definitely one of the things we need to work on to make sure that people can clearly understand what it is we are trying to achieve with Part 61,” Skidmore said.

“We have to be consistent in our approach to the aviation community so we don’t confuse them so we can make sure we are providing good, relevant consistent information out to people. I will continue to drive that.

“I don’t know what I don’t know, hence the letter to say we are working on this, we are getting good information but we would like to know more. If you’ve got something let us know.”

In the letter, the Director of Aviation Safety said some of the changes to Part 61 already made were related to check pilots conducting proficiency checks, low level ratings and aerial mustering training and flight testing, fire fighting operations, aerial application proficiency checks and R22 and R44 helicopter ratings.

[Image: MARKSKIDMORE_CASA-300x168.jpg]

CASA Director of Aviation Safety Mark Skidmore AM (CASA)

It also said about 10,600 new Part 61 licences have been issued since September 2014, with the transition period running until September 2018.

The Part 61 manual available on the CASA website is published in four volumes and runs to more than 600 pages.

CASA manager for flightcrew licensing standards Roger Crosthwaite said the document needed to be large given it covered a such a large array of ratings, licenses and endorsements.

There were plans, however, to make the information more accessible for industry participants, with better presentation and enabling scenario-based searches.

“I am very hopeful that we will have a more electronic version where people go on and say I want to get the standards for the PPL helicopter and the system will provide those, draw them together, under a knowledge base to present the standards,” Crosthwaite said.

The move to introduce Part 61 came before Skidmore’s joined CASA and was during a period where the industry and the regulator experienced an at-times difficult working relationship, which was highlighted in the Aviation Safety Regulatory Review.

Moreover, some in the industry warned CASA at the time of the difficulties Part 61 would cause.

Skidmore said although he was unable to change what happened in the past, he was committed to rebuild some of the trust that was lost in recent times by learning from what had happened and making sure “we don’t do it again”.

Part of that will be cultural change “both on my side for CASA and externally for the community to understand and to trust us”.

“Cultural change takes five to seven years,” Skidmore said.

“In a year or two, you will start to see it actually going. I will be looking for that.”
CASA’s letter to pilots can be read here.

This bit..

"..The Part 61 manual available on the CASA website is published in four volumes and runs to more than 600 pages.



CASA manager for flight-crew licensing standards Roger Crosthwaite said the document needed to be large given it covered a such a large array of ratings, licenses and endorsements.."

Angry FFS this Wodger needs to be given a reality check I reckon...here we go the NZ Part 61  (err...79 pages??).

On 2nd thoughts forget it, if this Wodger hasn't realised by now that statements like that are absolute bollocks and an insult to the intelligence of the average IOS member...well God help him at the next Estimates.. Big Grin

MTF...P2 Dodgy   

Breathless with anticipation the crowd awaits Terry’s departure.

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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more.
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