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Fridays Australian, aviation section "Short Haul.

The air Vice Marshall has issued a decree.

“The Civil Aviation  Safety  Authority is conducting a survey
To determine how it is viewed by the aviation Industry.
The authority says the online survey, which will become
a biennial event, will take about 15 minutes to complete
and will cover areas such as efficiency, responsiveness,
accountability, timeliness and ease of complying with
regulations. It said the results would be used by CAsA’s
board and management to “improve CAsA’s performance,
build stronger working connections with the aviation
community and lift service delivery”. The survey starts
next week and is open until mid-November”.
www.casa.gov.au/mop

Now men this is really serious stuff, I expect everyone to
complete this important initiative from the air Vice Marshall.

Now men, stop laughing this is very important.

Silence, for goodness sake get up off the floor!!

Sergent Take that mans name!!

Silence I said!!

Oh for goodness sake, if you can't control yourselves your all on report!!

Good catch TB

Also reported here from AA:

CASA to seek industry feedback via online survey


November 20, 2015 by australianaviation.com.au Leave a Comment

Australia’s Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) is launching an online survey to gauge community views about its work.

The survey will open on November 23 and run until mid-December, focusing on CASA’s performance on specific areas such as efficiency, responsiveness, accountability and timeliness.

CASA said in a statement the survey would take about 15 minute to complete and be conducted by an independent market research organisation, with respondents able to remain anonymous if they desired.

“Questions cover how easy it is to comply with regulations, the development of new regulations, consistency of decision making and satisfaction with service delivery,” CASA said.

“Overall, the survey aims to determine the strengths and weaknesses of CASA’s relationship with the aviation community.”

CASA said it planned to run the online survey, which is also a response to recommendation eight in the Aviation Safety Regulatory Review, every two years. The results would be used by the board and management to improve its work and establish stronger working connections with the aviation community.

Details of the survey can be found online at www.casa.gov.au/mop from Monday, November 23.

Meanwhile, the next Flight Plan 2030 briefing will be held in Brisbane on Thursday November 26. More details can be found here.

 
..& here from Oz Flying's - Last Minute Hitch: 20 Nov 2015.

..There's a beaten-up old saying that goes "Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it." It was not that long ago that we were all screaming at CASA because they weren't consulting, so they buckled to the reasoning and have launched on a comprehensive consulting program ... so much of the industry are now wishing they'd stop! Their latest program launches on Monday, but this one is in response to Recommendation 8 of the Forsyth Report and is all about CASA, their performance, regulations, consistency, strengths, weaknesses and all that. It's very important that we take a Bex for our consultation fatigue and get stuck into this one. We asked for it; now it's here. CASA probably needs to brace themselves for a barrage of criticism that will border on abuse, but we in the aviation community need to remember that emotive language, bulldozer reasoning and mud-flinging never gets noticed; it's just too hard to understand compared with simple logic presented concisely. The link to the survey is not yet live, so you've got the weekend to plan out what you want to say...

My personal sentiments mirror pretty much those of Thorny & Gobbles..   I would add that is a bit rich for the IOS to assess CASA as per ASRR R8, when Skidmore & co have effectively done nothing but have talkfests etc; ever since Truss called for the implementation of pretty much all of the Rev Forsyth's report recommendations. Nope just another cynical attempt to assuage the miniscule direction - FFS!  

P2 proposal - That said I'm personally not concerned about revealing my IP (if they want it they can more than likely get it anyway), so I propose to regurgitate said survey on here  & we can then respond to it collectively - with additional answers/etc - take the piss and send in with a link to the 269 ASRR submissions on a PAIN email?- My proposal, other suggestions welcome.

On the subject of CASA asking for feedback and the uptake of such requests, the following is off the FF website :

Implementing future regulations





CASA’s new regulations are designed to improve aviation safety, address known risks and maintain Australia’s reputation as having one of the safest aviation industries in the world. We’re reviewing our regulation program, and we want your feedback about how we should implement future regulations.

Many new rules, such as flight crew licensing, maintenance and fatigue management, are already in place. Proposed new rules cover flight operations(External link), limited category aircraft operations(External link), aerodromes(External link) and sport aviation(External link).

We welcome your feedback on the timing of future regulations, how regulatory change affects you, alternative ways to implement new rules, and how CASA can assist you through the process.

• Forum
  

Forum
Discussions: All (3) Open (3)

• How can CASA help you when we are introducing changes to the regulations?
  2 months ago 311 views
  3 Responses
  
  
• We believe a key to the success of any new regulations is sound implementation and transition plans. What are your ideas for possible alternative ways to introduce and transition to new rules in the future?
  about 1 month ago 190 views
  7 Responses
  
  
• It’s important for us to get the implementation of future regulations right—sometimes that means taking a bit more time. What impact would that have on you? Do you have a preference for the timing of future rules?
  about 1 month ago 122 views
  1 Response
  

   P2 comment - 623 views is pretty piss poor in anyone's language but what is worse is the number of responses. 

Let's take a look at the QON 2 responses -

RIP 21 days ago



I would like CASA to change the ATPL rules in regards to ATPL simulator flight test esp for those pilots who are currently working in overseas. There are only 2 B737 CL simulators in whole Australia. And one of them I would never go there again. Why can't we allow to do ATPL flight test with JAA or FAA flight examiner ?

CASA – Admin 5 days ago

Thanks for taking the time to comment. There is a pathway for allowing ATPL flight tests to be conducted offshore. The process is rigorous to ensure Australian national licensing standards are met. The offshore examiner would need to demonstrate that they are as well-qualified and knowledgeable of the Australian regulatory environment as a person who holds an Australian flight crew licence.

An appropriately qualified Australian flight examiner (or 61.040 approval holder) may conduct ATPL flight tests in approved flight simulators internationally.

For an explanation of the process and CASA’s requirements, the applicant can contact trainandcheck@casa.gov.au(External link)


Ozppl 9 days ago


It should be very easy for CASA to identify how and where it needs to improve its processes for implementing new rules:
1. The industry is likely to be much more cooperative if CASA presents convincing evidence that there is a real safety issue and that the regulations will lead to an improvement. Statistically valid data will demonstrate that a problem exists, and that any proposed regulatory change will lead to an improvement.
The Australian fleet is relatively small so the Australian database will also be small and often not statistically significant but jurisdictions such as USA and EU have very large fleets and, therefore, large databases. They are also where the vast majority of the world’s aircraft are manufactured. They also have much larger pools of technical expertise than can be justified in Australia. Gaining access to and utilising data from these jurisdictions to supplement local data would enable CASA to develop a clear case for change.
2. Get the regulations right before starting to implement them so there is not a flurry of urgent exemptions and amendments due to unintended consequences, as has occurred with Part 61. CASA’s credibility and performance would improve considerably if there were more employees with real experience across the full spread of aviation and with a balance of airline and GA backgrounds. Since the C in CASA stands for Civil, there should be a very limited need for ex-military personnel.
Where CASA is short of resources, contract experts with practical experience from the segments of the industry to which the regulations apply, and pay them for their time. Any additional costs incurred in getting new regulations right from the start will almost certainly be more than offset by savings later by reducing the costs of implementation and reducing the number of post-implementation amendments.
CASA should also consider a different approach to the entire process of developing new regulations. The practice of using a series of separate teams for the various steps in the process is an out-dated, production line business model. A better method would be to establish a multi-skilled team to carry the process from beginning to end. Such a model would ensure that the team members all develop a clearer understanding of the impacts of their decisions throughout CASA and across the aviation industry. For example, the legal department would begin to appreciate how difficult it is for the end users to understand and implement new rules.
The consultation process also needs to be more interactive and user friendly. The consultation process would be far more effective if the industry received clearer documentation so new rules can be easily understood. A series of face to face consultations, such as have been occurring with Flight Plan 2030, would also increase both the amount and the quality industry feedback.
Before implementing any regulatory change, the changes should be field tested with organisations and individuals who will be affected. Good test cases would identify and solve many problems even before the regulations are put out for industry comment. In running the test cases, CASA should pay the organisations and individuals who contribute, at the same rate as CASA charges for its services. The cost of paying the industry participants would, almost certainly, be more than offset by savings in the subsequent implementation process.
3. Provide realistic cost benefit analyses. As an example, anecdotal evidence indicates that CASA’s estimates of the costs of the Cessna SIDs is far below the actual costs incurred by operators. There are lots of people in the industry who have at least as much expertise as CASA staff in areas such as the business and technical aspects of aviation, data analysis, and cost estimation, and who are willing to make constructive contributions if given reasonable opportunities.
Where the purpose of any change is not primarily to address a safety issue, such as situations where the reason for change is ICAO compliance, there shouldn’t be any cost to the industry, either directly through CASA charges or indirectly through the costs of implementation.
4. Make use of modern IT systems that enable the people at the coal face to easily find and understand the rules that are relevant to their own operations.
For an organisation that claims to be at the forefront of international air safety management, CASA should be embarrassed that, not only did New Zealand beat us at the rugby world cup but they also offer their pilots a credit card sized Part 61 licence.
More importantly, it would be far better for regulations to be written in plain English so the people who have to use the rules can understand them easily. To say that regulations are written for lawyers is, in my view, completely contrary to the aim of improving safety. However, everyone understands that is unlikely to change so the next best approach would be to use some modern IT systems that enable users to filter the rules to easily find those that are relevant to a particular operation. For example, a private pilot flying a single engine aircraft should not have to sort through hundreds of pages of rules that apply to an airline pilot flying a heavy jet, just in case there is something relevant to private operations.


CASA – Admin 5 days ago


Thanks for adding some new ideas to the conversation. There are some interesting suggestions which we’ll be taking into consideration. Your point about increasing the amount and quality of industry feedback is a good one and something we are already working towards. For example, we have recently established a new taskforce to address outstanding issues with the suite of flight crew licensing regulations. Importantly, we are going to be working closely with an advisory panel made up of people representing a wide range of sectors across the aviation community. The advice and guidance of this industry panel will help us to prioritise the actions and make sure that successful solutions have been found.

Thanks again for contributing your ideas.


Unhappy 24 days ago


The biggest issue is not necessarily the implementation and transition plan. It is that casa internally is so chaotic that their own people are not up to speed on what the new regulations actually say. This leads to inconsistent application and confusion as different parts of casa contradict each other.

There needs to be a way that a second opinion on any casa communication can be given. That way someone from the industry can elevate what they think is a contradiction between casa's interpretation and the actual rules. This way the internal misunderstandings within casa can be resolved.


CASA – Admin 22 days ago


Consistency is a priority for CASA and we are continually working to educate and train our people to ensure greater consistency and clarity throughout the organisation. Thanks for your comments. We are reading everything on this site and taking comments into consideration.

CASA – Admin about 1 month ago


So far we’ve been to Launceston, Sydney and Darwin, where we’ve heard ideas from a range of people in the industry. One idea that came from a GA operator is that they would be happy to help CASA ‘road test the rules’ before the rest of the industry transitions across. This would help us to iron out any problems in advance. What do you think of this idea? Would you be willing to put your hand up and get involved in something like this?

    
Hmmm..now that's embarrassing, of the 7 responses in over a month 4 of them are actually from CASA Admin - UFB! Someone likes the sound of their own keyboard


MTF...P2