Re-Joyce or Repeat?
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TICK TOCK!! - Time's up Ms Spence Dodgy  

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Reference:

(12-22-2021, 02:16 PM)Peetwo Wrote:  Royal Commission into the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.

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Ref: https://www.change.org/p/aviation-indust...5d3f22b052


[Image: kADJpzPzzaexRTM-48x48-noPad.jpg?1640056817] SHANNON BAKER started this petition to Aviation industry.

As we all know, CASA (Civil Aviation Safety Authority) have had underlying issues that have eroded industry confidence at all levels - for decades, after multiple senate enquiries over the years, it appears these have had little to no affect on how CASA continue to operate.

The first step to change - is an independent public investigation into the Civil Aviation Safety Authority... a Royal Commission would be the most appropriate medium for this, and would help restore industry confidence.

"A Royal Commission is an investigation, independent of government, into a matter of great importance. Royal Commissions have broad powers to hold public hearings, call witnesses under oath and compel evidence. Royal Commissions make recommendations to government about what should change."

The Royal Commission into the Civil Aviation Safety Authority should focus its investigation on:

1) If CASA is 'fit for purpose' in its current form, in particular to its Legal, International and Regulatory Affairs Division (LIRA), if CASA's conduct is reasonable and in accordance with wider aviation community expectations.

2) CASA's apparent abuse of administrative law, and whether it is appropriate it retain these powers.

3) Whether it is appropriate for CASA to be involved in drafting aviation regulations.

4) Investigation into Freedom of Information requests to CASA and potential interference from (but not limited to) the Legal, International and Regulatory Affairs Division, as openness and transparency are pillars for democracy, trust and progress which will give confidence to industry that good governance is taking place.

5) Investigation into whether there has been any use of taxpayer funds to protect CASA staff in litigation or legal proceedings who have engaged in misconduct or alleged criminal activity, or the signing of NDA (non-disclosure agreements).

6) The erosion of General Aviation in Australia through CASA decisions.

7) Airspace review to align more with the FAA. (USA) rules.

8) Any other matter of importance that should be investigated that comes to the Royal Commission's attention during its investigation.

In its findings, the Royal Commission should include comment on whether the establishment of an independent aviation ombudsman would be appropriate, and all matters that arise from the investigation that appear to be criminal in nature shall be referred to the Australian Federal Police or other relevant authorities for investigation.

The Royal Commission shall make its findings open, public and transparent, and shall accept submissions from the public during the investigation.

This petition will be presented to federal members of parliament.

We all know that the chances of an RC into CASA getting up are (pardon the pun) 'Buckley's and none' -  Rolleyes  

However as political leverage in the lead up to the next election, IMO everyone who has serious skin in the (aviation) game, or even the mildest concern for the survival of the Oz GA industry, should consider signing the petition. But if that doesn't convince then perhaps watch/listen to this..


...review the Angel Flight submission (especially Table 1) see Angel Flight submission back up unaltered?? &/or https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ash...bId=717685

...then compare to this:

      

...and finally read this:

(12-27-2021, 06:35 AM)Kharon Wrote:  I only managed to get this far /.

"Many people lost work or had hours cut, many businesses were shut during lock-downs and restrictions meant even flying for fun was curtailed. CASA did as much as we could to ease regulatory burdens through a special package of measures and I hope this did indeed help many people. We'll continue to review and adjust as we have been and as issues arise."

/ before reaching for the bucket. However, as requested and required, I read through the missive, twice. Once to get a 'feel' for it; second time to read 'through' it. Had a coffee then went back for round three, just to make certain that my reaction to it was as sanguine as possible (considering).

Read 1: P2 nailed it - on an intellectual and professional basis the latest WOLOB from Spence is grossly insulting; and IMO, demands a published apology. It beggars belief that a DAS who was so completely blind sided by her own crew during the last McDolittle pantomime is thick skinned enough to dare publish such a load of deceitful, placatory BOLLOCKS and expect to be believed. The limited political intellect and control of her portfolio and crew on display in the Hansard video demands not only her resignation, but that of all CASA top brass on display. Clearly Spence had NDI that Pagani was about to drop a bombshell; she should have - but even so - a smart, competent DAS could have simply asked for a recess, had a short sharp discussion with those who had caused the embarrassment and then returned later with an offer to fully investigate the apparent contempt of either the Senate or the Court; for clearly there were questions which demand answers. But, no; clearly panicked she forced herself to read the prepared embarrassing statement, digging the hole deeper. Is this the right person to be 'master of matters aeronautical'?

Read 2: Paragraph 1 defines the smoke and mirrors - a confection of half truths and pony-pooh baked in smoke and mirrors. For starters there was very little 'activity' and the work which was being done required no special input from CASA - there was some latitude in medicals but little else of intrinsic or practical value on offer; the fleets were essentially grounded. "Your covid achievements" Bollocks - 'Nuff said.

Read 3: Regulatory change - IMO - at face value, it seems to light a small candle of hope don't it though. It is not; it is just CASA resetting for another decade of easy living while they continue to con-volute, manipulate and expand the massive amount of rubbish within what is arguably the worst rule set on the planet, the most dangerous to operators and aircrew and the greatest incentive to get out of the aviation industry and buy a pub. A simple statement from Spence stating that we will be adopting the gold standard ICAO compliant FAR would have been the best news industry has had in the last thirty odd years. 

But, for me the really disturbing element of the Spence missive is the soft, soppy language used; as if she thinks we are all small children in need of motherhood reassurance. Time someone assured Spence that we are not; someone might also mention that we are neither dopey, gullible or naive and have forgotten more about aviation 'safety' than she will ever know. Resignation and apology would be a great way to kick off the New Year.

Toot - toot.

To round off the 'spot on' summation of the Su_Spence WALOB from "K", here are some comments (so far) from the CASA RC petition:

Quote:Peter Brookman
24 hours ago

I believe a lot of CASA’s powers are detrimental to aviation and serves in no way for safety in aviation



Debra Koch
3 days ago

They have lied to me in the past. They are brazen faced shameful, deceitful and duplicitous. I would say a royal commission is the very least they deserve for chemtrail crimes against humanity



Sean Frewin
3 days ago

We need a fair, just and impartial authority to oversea aviation safety in this country.



Derek Liston
4 days ago

As a retired LAME and still current PPL I am well aware of the problems with CASA and in my particular case the Aeromedical branch.



Michael Carlin
4 days ago

A government department about as useful as pedals on a wheelchair. Needs a complete overhaul urgently.



Marjorie Pagani
5 days ago

The lack of accountability and cost to aviation has gone on far too long: the police shouldn’t be writing the rules. Departmental supervision is overdue.



Wally Sturgeon
5 days ago

Running 2 parallel systems since 1998 should have been fixed up long ago. Show me another country that has kept this up for the last 23 years. If you plan to adopt e.g. the EASA system, and then tamper with it you end up in 'no man's land' in terms of International harmonisation.



Terence McGowan
5 days ago

casa needs to have aviation experienced people. Not political appointees. Someone who has actually been involved in general aviation.



Bob Pagett
5 days ago

CASA need to be held to account for the mismanagement and obvious corruption that sits within the Dept.



Bryn Watson
5 days ago

CASA has become the single biggest threat to my safety as a professional helicopter pilot. Their well outdated methodology for regulating safety is creating more problems that they purport to solve.



Christopher Atkinson
5 days ago

CASA has destroyed general aviation in this country

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Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 06-24-2021, 07:01 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 06-24-2021, 09:19 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 06-24-2021, 11:09 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 06-26-2021, 10:48 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 06-29-2021, 11:10 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 06-30-2021, 07:10 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by P7_TOM - 07-20-2021, 08:42 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 07-24-2021, 01:26 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by P7_TOM - 07-25-2021, 08:02 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 07-27-2021, 11:37 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 07-29-2021, 08:15 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 07-29-2021, 11:22 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 08-03-2021, 06:53 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 08-05-2021, 06:02 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 08-05-2021, 09:02 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by gizmoe - 01-28-2022, 12:37 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 08-06-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 08-07-2021, 09:25 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 08-08-2021, 12:18 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 08-08-2021, 11:05 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 08-09-2021, 08:07 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by P7_TOM - 08-09-2021, 09:59 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 08-10-2021, 06:31 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 08-10-2021, 01:32 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 08-11-2021, 07:07 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 08-12-2021, 07:12 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 08-13-2021, 08:46 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 08-13-2021, 10:01 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 08-14-2021, 07:35 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 08-14-2021, 08:11 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 08-14-2021, 08:42 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 08-14-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 08-15-2021, 10:45 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 08-15-2021, 06:25 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 09-07-2021, 08:23 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 09-13-2021, 09:46 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 10-19-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 09-26-2021, 09:26 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 10-08-2021, 11:52 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 10-19-2021, 05:57 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 10-19-2021, 07:42 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 10-20-2021, 06:15 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 11-03-2021, 08:38 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 11-05-2021, 07:01 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 11-20-2021, 10:19 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 12-04-2021, 07:35 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 12-05-2021, 06:09 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Plane Fixer - 12-05-2021, 08:42 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 12-05-2021, 11:50 AM
Plane Fixer - by Plane Fixer - 12-05-2021, 07:40 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 12-09-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 12-09-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 12-09-2021, 08:11 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 12-16-2021, 11:37 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 12-21-2021, 10:00 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 12-21-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 12-24-2021, 07:09 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 12-27-2021, 09:53 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 12-28-2021, 06:51 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 12-28-2021, 05:25 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 01-03-2022, 06:52 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 01-13-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 01-24-2022, 11:04 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 01-25-2022, 07:24 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 01-25-2022, 09:32 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 01-26-2022, 08:56 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 01-27-2022, 06:12 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 01-27-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 01-27-2022, 10:28 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 01-27-2022, 02:44 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 01-28-2022, 04:57 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 01-28-2022, 06:36 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 01-31-2022, 06:32 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 01-31-2022, 09:15 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 02-01-2022, 04:54 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 02-01-2022, 07:18 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 02-02-2022, 05:47 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 02-05-2022, 08:06 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 02-10-2022, 09:27 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 02-10-2022, 11:35 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 02-10-2022, 04:15 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 02-11-2022, 05:41 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by gizmoe - 02-26-2022, 06:46 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 02-11-2022, 05:44 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 02-11-2022, 08:59 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 02-26-2022, 01:29 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 03-25-2022, 08:32 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 03-25-2022, 07:43 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 03-25-2022, 01:47 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 04-05-2022, 08:02 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 04-05-2022, 10:46 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 04-06-2022, 08:00 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 04-09-2022, 09:17 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 04-12-2022, 10:27 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 04-19-2022, 08:55 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 04-23-2022, 09:53 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 05-06-2022, 10:47 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 05-10-2022, 10:30 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 05-10-2022, 06:19 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 05-11-2022, 07:53 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 05-11-2022, 11:44 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 05-13-2022, 11:27 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 05-14-2022, 11:21 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Sandy Reith - 05-14-2022, 07:27 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by thorn bird - 05-16-2022, 06:56 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Wombat - 05-31-2022, 10:09 PM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Kharon - 06-15-2022, 06:12 AM
RE: Re-Joyce or Repeat? - by Peetwo - 05-21-2023, 10:12 AM



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