2016 Election & GA?- Policies not platitudes

Fingers crossed.

This could be the best ever election for industry.  So, votive offerings and whispered prayers to your pagan gods of choice that the balance of power stays firmly in the Senate, with Nick Xenophon.  That’s no too wild a hope is it, for aviation.  The ‘Reps’ is just a rabble and it will be a scramble for survival now, but if NX can hold the balance; or at least a lot of influence in the Senate; perhaps, maybe, some sort of nexus to aviation sanity can be forged.  Even if it’s only not being told to buzz off at estimates or having their recommendations ignored.

Aye well, time will tell I expect.  But it’s worth thinking on, if just for the simple pleasure it brings.  I know, dream on, right.
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(07-03-2016, 08:40 AM)kharon Wrote:  Fingers crossed.

This could be the best ever election for industry.  So, votive offerings and whispered prayers to your pagan gods of choice that the balance of power stays firmly in the Senate, with Nick Xenophon.  That’s no too wild a hope is it, for aviation.  The ‘Reps’ is just a rabble and it will be a scramble for survival now, but if NX can hold the balance; or at least a lot of influence in the Senate; perhaps, maybe, some sort of nexus to aviation sanity can be forged.  Even if it’s only not being told to buzz off at estimates or having their recommendations ignored.

Aye well, time will tell I expect.  But it’s worth thinking on, if just for the simple pleasure it brings.  I know, dream on, right.

NX & his team look like snagging 2 and possibly 3 Senate seats and he has also won 1 HoR seat with the possibility of another. So yes totally agree NX will be in a perfect position to up the weights on issues such as aviation. Time for the Alphabets & the disenfranchised industry to ramp it up.. Wink  Phil Hurst's 100 days? - bring it on!  

While waiting for the dust to settle, here is a little bit of election humour courtesy the 'other' Aunty... Big Grin





MTF...P2 Tongue
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The Morning after the night before !!!

Early Sunday Morning, just crunched the numbers off the Australian Electoral Office website.
As things stand, it looks like Nick will go back to Canberra with a full crew this time !!
He gets an F/O and an F/E !!

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NX for PM!!!

I wish! From my last analysis he had. 2.8 reps in the bag! So it looks like he will end up with 3, all going to plan. At one stage it looked like possibly 4 reps.

Nick is very astute, doesn't take shit, but is also the ultimate relationship builder. He gets along well with Lambie (Gobbles would be pleased to share his 'package' with her), and even Hinch has some ideologies that align with NX. I see Nick as 'the elder statesman', a transparent, people first, style leader, someone who should be able to pull numerous Independents together to provide a united front on certain issues.

Turnbull is an embarrassment. He called the double dissolution so he could screw over the Independents, too premature and too naive Malcolm. You may hold on to power but you just got your balls handed to you on a platter. You now have more independants, and tougher ones to contend with.

Tick tock This election shows that the people are stirring and had a gutful of the major party horseshit that is ruining our nation. People can't afford a doctor, can't afford to pay for electricity, are losing their homes, yet these Can'tberra wankers ramble on about gay marriage and 'jobs and growth' and sprouting cheap words and produce nothing. Well Malcolm and Bill you just had your wake-up call boys. TICK TOCK.

Truss - side point, but old crusty head retires now on an annual indexed pension on $300k per year, excluding free business class travel and a host of other taxpayer funded perks for life. Not a bad reward for a pissweak cardboard cutout that did SFA for anyone but himself. A great example of why the general populous are turning against the major parties and the trough swilling vermin inhabiting those parties.

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Dear NX,

Please don't forget all the votes you received from the aviation community. Trust me mate, you received a lot. But never forget that the IOS don't like being double crossed or shelved after being loyal and supportive.
Best of luck with your new Independent associates. And by the way if you bump into Hannah tell her Gobbles says g'day.

Best regards
Gobbledock
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The fell tale of two miniscules.

A story to frighten the children.  A legend of the incredible damage two consecutive miniscules have inflicted on an industry and their legacy of sloth and ignorance.

Alby-Back created the beast, a foul creature dredged from the darkest swamps of bigotry and bias, the McComic and turned it loose on the happy villages, creating mayhem and madness wherever it landed, leaving behind fear, mistrust and some of the darkest deeds ever inflicted. Aye, twas indeed a dark time for the children of the blue sky god.

Out of that mayhem came a small, modest angel of mercy.  The good Rev Forsyth, a mild mannered, quiet spoken djinn who was asked to help the poor folk by the new grand pooh-bah.  He and his trusty companions set to work, they quietly found out what was troubling to good folk and worked out how best to right the wrong inflicted.  They carefully and politely wrote it all down and took back to the new grand poo-bah (GPB).  Alas, they were evilly deceived. The new GPB not only had feet of clay, but was a weak, spineless creature, intent only on preserving his position and holding on, as long as possible, to the lurks and perks his new position afforded him.  The McComic beast had left behind all manner of accomplices, acolytes and catamites; all happy to do his bidding while plotting his return.  Well children, that was never going to happen and so the remnants set about seeking a suitable successor.  

When they had trawled the depths of the lowest hell they found another McComic, only this time with better table manners.  A master of disguise and deception who so completely bamboozled the new, lazy, disinterested GPB that, despite objections, once the new McComic was established, the GBP could sit a spell and put his feet up.

And so it was that the creatures from Sleepy Hollow could relax again, the threat to their environment safely removed and all would be as it ever was.  What they did not expect, not in their wildest dreams of glory was to be gifted yet another miniscule who would trump the previous slack jawed idiots. Now they have dazzling, dancing Darren, doyen of the MKR set, celebrity judge of Dancing with Stars, master of the 'sefie', patron saint of hairstylists,  who would not, not even on his best days give a flying rats arse what they do (unless there was a photo op).  

You may think this is a faery tale; you may even think the yarn is spun from legend to frighten the children; you could even be forgiven calling bollocks.  But you wait quietly and watch carefully, you shall see the ghastly spectre of the McComic; if you listen carefully you will hear the fell laughter as the creatures of the ‘Ollow resume the wonton destruction, unabated.

IF you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet,
Don't go drawing back the blind, or looking in the street,
Them that ask no questions isn't told a lie.
Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by.

Five and twenty ponies,
Trotting through the dark -
Brandy for the Parson, 'Baccy for the Clerk.
Laces for a lady; letters for a spy,
Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by!

Aye, there’s work aplenty for Sir Nick; should he decide the game is worth the candle. We shall see.

Toot toot.
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Fresh off the PAIN email loops.  Someone is not over fond of our pollies.

Does this man, as a self-funded retiree, have some answers?  We think so.

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I'm frustrated with Canberra?s continuous fiddle with Superannuation contributions and rule changes. Plus the measure to re balance the Pension Assets Test to be implemented on 1st January 2017.

So here's fair warning to all politicians of any persuasion, this group of aged voters may be about to make the greatest impact on any Federal election in history; Ignoring them may be the start of a changed political environment in this country.

Change the Entitlements

I absolutely agree, if a pension isn't an entitlement, neither is theirs. They keep telling us that paying us an aged pension isn’t sustainable.

Paying politicians all the perks they get is even less sustainable! The politicians themselves, in Canberra, brought it up, that the Age of Entitlements is over:

The author is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in Australia will have this message. This is one idea that really should be passed around because the rot has to stop somewhere.
Proposals to make politicians shoulder their share of the weight now that the Age of Entitlement is over:-

1. Scrap political pensions. Politicians can purchase their own retirement plan, just as most other working Australians are expected to do.

2. Retired politicians (past, present & future) participate in Centrelink. A Politician collects a substantial salary while in office but should receive no salary when they?re out of office
Terminated politicians under 70 can go get a job or apply for Centrelink unemployment benefits like ordinary Australians. Terminated politicians under 70 can negotiate with Centrelink, like the rest of the Australian people.

3. Funds already allocated to the Politicians' retirement fund be returned immediately to Consolidated Revenue. This money is to be used to pay down debt they created which they expect us and our grandchildren to repay for them.

4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.

5. Politicians lose their privileged health care system and participate in the same health care system as ordinary Australian people. i.e. Politicians either pay for private cover from their own funds or accept ordinary Medicare.

6. Politicians must equally abide by all laws they impose on the Australian people.

7. All contracts with past and present Politicians men/women are void effective 31/12/16.
The Australian people did not agree to provide perks to Politicians, that burden was thrust upon them. Politicians devised all these contracts to benefit themselves. Serving in Parliament is an honour not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so our politicians should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will only take three or so days for most Australians to receive the message. Don't you think it?s time?

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX Parliament and help bring fairness back into this country. If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete. If you wonder why the above individuals are asking for your help, look at the figures below.

STATUTORY OFFICES Date of Effect 1 July 2014 Specified Statutory Office Base Salary (per annum) Total Remuneration for office (per annum) Chief of the Defence Force $535,100 - $764,420 Commissioner of Taxation $518,000 - $740,000 Chief Executive Officer, Australian Customs and Border Protection Service $483,840 - $691,200 Auditor-General for Australia $469,150 - $670,210 Australian Statistician $469,150 - $670,210 Salaries of retired Prime Minister and Politicians Office Additional salary (%) Salary as of 1 July Prime Minister $507,338 Deputy Prime Minister $400,016 Treasurer $365,868 Leader of the Opposition $360,990 House of Reps Speaker $341,477 Leader of the House $341,477 Minister in Cabinet $336,599 Parliamentary secretary $243,912 Other ministers $307,329 Shadow minister $243,912
Source: Remuneration Tribunal.

So if I press all the right buttons, the TOTAL annual wages for the 150 seats in the Parliament The TOTAL ANNUAL SALARIES (for 150 seats) = $41,694,311 - PER YEAR!

And that?s just the Federal Politicians, no one else!

For the 'lifetime' payment example (below) I used the scenario that:

1. They are paid lifetime salaries the same as their last working year and :-

2. After retiring, the 'average' pollie's life expectancy is an additional 20 years (which is not unreasonable). It’s worth remembering that this is EXCLUDING all their other perks!

SO, for a 20 years 'lifetime' payment (excluding wages paid while a Parliamentarian) Prime Minister @ $507,338 = A$10,146,760 Deputy Prime Minister @ $400,016 = A$8,000,320 Treasurer @ $365,868 = A$7,317,360 Leader of the Opposition @ $360,990 = A$7,219,800 House of Reps Speaker @ $341,477 = A$6,829,540 Leader of the House @ $341,477 = A$6,829,540 Minister in Cabinet @ $336,599 = A$6,731,980 Parliamentary Secretary @ $243,912 = A$4,782,240 Other ministers** @ $307,329 = A$6,146,580 x 71 = A$436,407,180 Shadow ministers** @ $243,912 = A$4,878,240 x 71 = A$346,355,040

Conclusions:-
TOTAL ?life time? (20 year) payments, (excluding wages paid while in parliament) = A$833,886,220 ? OVER $833 MILLION Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, John Howard, Paul Keating, Bob Hawke, et al, add nauseum, are receiving $10 MILLION + EXTRA at taxpayer expense.

Should an elected PM serve 4 years and then decide to retire, each year (of the 4 years) will have cost taxpayers an EXTRA Two and a half million bucks a year! A$2,536,690 to be precise. A 2 year retirement payment cut-off will SAVE our Oz bottom line A$792,201,909 *** NEARLY $800 MILLION.

There are 150 seats in House, minus the 8 above = 142 seats, divided equally for example = 71 each for both shadow and elected ministers.

This example excludes all wages paid while a parliamentarian AND all perks on top of that - travel, hotels, secretarial staff, speech writers, restaurants, offices, chauffeured limos, security, etc. etc.

150 seats, 20-year payment of A$833,886,220 less annual salary x 2 years of A$83,388,622. [$41,694,311 x 2] ?Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better to change the locks.?

YOU?RE RIGHT; YOU HAVE FOUND WHERE THE CUTS SHOULD BE MADE!

ACTION: Push for a MAX 2 year post retirement payment (give ‘em time to get a real job).

Spread it far and wide folks. People should know.

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Works for me - the cost of 'government' is paid for by - Guess who?  Still puzzled - look in the mirror; the answer is right there.
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The above post should get this months chocolate egg award!!

If only you could add in the other perks and rorts once they retire - free airfares (business class), personal drivers, ex PM's get an office, stationary and a P.A, and the rorts continue.

They are all disgraceful snout in the trough grubs. It's a fucking disgrace. Think about how much better off you aren't compared with 10, 20, 30 years ago. So what have any of these Politicians done that has earned them the right to be so luxuriously compensated? Spot on - SFA!! They are a dismal failure.

You can smell the changes in the air. It's happening worldwide. You can only oppress people for so long, then the people react. The politicians, the 1 percenters, the Wall Street bankers and the elite have wrecked our lives, our futures, our grandkids futures. Their day of reckoning is coming.....TICK TOCK vermin TICK TOCK. You will have to run but there will be nowhere to hide.
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Two pints of opinion please.

Does Australian aviation cares who forms a government?  The short answer is no. In fact the closer the two parties are to a ‘hung’ parliament, the better the chances of actually getting the appalling state of aviation administration and the costs the current situation is demanding under some form of rational, responsible, accountable control. Even if it is only fiscal.

For far too long, successive government have been content to rely on the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and it’s associated agencies.  It is a convenient arrangement where the Minister of the day can know, with some certainty and confidence, that there are multiple layers of ministerial safety built into the system to protect them from all and any responsibility. This is fine for government.  However, abrogating all ministerial responsibility and control has allowed the agencies, particularly the CASA to run unchecked. This to the point where even the Supreme court in WA was persuaded by the ‘mystique’  and the fear of blood on their hands, that CASA was ‘above the law’ when it came to matters relating to ‘air safety’.  This, standing alone, is ludicrous. Anyone who believes that anything CASA do or could do make flying on Qantas any safer than it is needs help.  Industry expertise has built, with blood, sweat and hard learned lessons the reputation for safety Australia enjoys; CASA is simply a parasite feeding very well off the talent, skill, experience and wisdom of industry.

Previous Ministers have sat on their hands and turned a blind eye to the outrageous cost of regulatory reform. It has been estimated, but not audited, that within the past three decades over 300,000,000 tax payer dollars have been invested in the still to be complete ‘new’ regulatory suite.  A suite which is internationally embarrassing and has provoked those directly involved or associated with industry into open rebellion.  There is tangible, measurable fury against the impractical, overly prescriptive, strict liability, criminal law based, operationally incomprehensible, impossible to comply with, expensive, counterproductive, no value rule set; which has not improved ‘safety’ one solitary iota.  In fact many would support the argument that many of the rules can promote ‘un-safe’ practices, in the form of ‘double standards’ i.e. that which is seen to be ‘compliant’ as opposed to that which actually takes place. The latest inutile rule sets have produced nothing except expense and aggravation; with particular reference to rules relating to the nonadministrative aspects of aircraft maintenance, pilot fatigue and ‘licencing’.

Consecutive ‘big party’ governments have not only allowed the situation to develop, they have happily funded the abomination.  For aviation, particularly the smaller end of town, the very best thing would be a parliament where Nick Xenophon held the whip hand.  He and some of his Senate colleagues are the only politicians who have taken the time and trouble to ask the right questions.  They almost understand, they certainly have been educated and had their eyes opened.  Pel-Air rocked ‘em, hit ‘em hard; the lights came on.  Regrettably, despite their best efforts there are still 30 odd recommendations they made relating to the Norfolk Island ditching of a Pel-Air medical transfer flight which have just be ignored. There are yet another 30 odd recommendations relating to the reform of the ‘regulator’ provided by an independent report, commissioned by government, not only outstanding, but being treated as merely ‘an opinion’.

No. For aviation only Xenophon and the Senate crew really matter; the rest, just another well stuffed, irresponsible government determined, at any cost (to the taxpayer) to avoid all contact with matters aeronautical.

Thank you M’dear, I enjoyed those.  Yes please; set ‘em up again, we have friends joining us.

Toot. - FFS - bloody toot.
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You do realize that 'we' all voted for this charade and pay (dearly) for it.

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The Embuggerance of Barnaby.

It is a good thing to see Barnaby’s smile as his embuggerance ends. The increase majority reflecting (IMO) the thoughts of the average Joe public. Bloody silly little dust up – tea cup storm – the whole country held up on a legal technicality; time, money effort and aggravation – to prove what?

We can only hope that this brief encounter with embuggerance gives him an insight into ‘matters aeronautical’ and the routine embuggerance of operators, aircrew and engineers. Perhaps Barnaby can now thank Daren Chester (properly) for blasting his picture all over social media; perhaps he may even decide this is not a good image for the party or himself. Bad enough to be snapped at the trough, let alone caught pissing in it.

Aviation spelled as per the politicians dictionary - go figure.........

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From the 'Net'. Worth a moment or two:-

Late Show

SMH
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Testing few features.
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From the ABC -

Do not reverse onus of proof for black economy crimes say experts.

This is going to get interesting – let’s see how the great unwashed, long suffering, voting Australian tax payer likes a dose of CASA style ‘strict liability’. Are the nations ‘earners’ going to put up with it? My bet, they won’t realise what’s happening until it’s far too late to change it. I hope someone is paying attention. Guilty until proven innocent – I can see the public just loving the crap out of that. One thing though, whichever party offers to strike out the ‘new’ regulation will win a landslide election.

Toot-toot..
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You kids just can’t be trusted....

Interesting article Mr Ferryman, thank you for posting it. It really gets to the heart of one the big issues affecting aviation. From Kharons previous post and the article link;

“Tax experts and business lobbies have hit out against a Treasury proposal to reverse the onus of proof — that is to say that someone is guilty until they prove themselves innocent — as part of a bid to stamp out illegal cash economy activity.”

Our very own Dr Voodoo, having presided over CAsA’s legal department for a long long time and having had a front row seat at the trough for almost 25 years at CAsA is famous (infamous) for saying; “aviators are guilty of something, it’s just that most of them haven’t been caught yet”. Yes, sadly fools like Aleck are conditioned to believe that those who work in aviation are guilty of some form of nefarious criminal activity in which severe punitive actions must be applied, even when proof of no wrong doing has been discerned.

‘Guilty until proven innocent, and even if proven innocent you are still guilty’! Just ask Bruce Rhoades, Paul Phelan, Karen Casey, the late Gerald Repacholi, Shane Urquhart and a host of other operators who have been belted by CAsA and it’s endless bucket of legal money or have had their plight crushed as they try to find justice for the death of their loved ones and loss of their business. Terry, Jonathan and other members of The Golden West Mafia are a testimony to this perverted Government mindset. Ironic considering endless Politicans and senior bureaucrats are constantly getting pinged themselves for being lying, deceitful, despicable shonks. I guess it takes a thief to know a thief, hence their mistrust of us avaition IOS innocents.

Tick Tock

Well caught GD - Choc Frog......P7.
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Federal ICAC an election issue? 

There was movement in the Nation, for the word had got around, that the average Aussie punter has had a gutful of trough feeding, do nothing pollies and their self-serving bureaucrats... Dodgy 

Choc frog to Juice media... Wink 



#FederalICACNow


MTF...P2  Tongue
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Back to ToRs -  Rolleyes

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Reference AOPA thread:

(02-16-2019, 06:30 AM)Kharon Wrote:  Much a'do.

The 'instrument which has everyone's panties in a bunch is - HERE -. Fairly straightforward - for a CASA effort - and no too much to make a fuss about. There are somel howlers in the wording, but that is semantics and grammar at risk, nothing that a half decent barrister could not tear apart to score some points. I can't see anything to onerous in the instrument - stand alone. The real anger should be directed at the methodology used to produce the 'instrument' and the motivation for doing so. Operationally, there will little or no impact on AF work, so why bother with a five year program, at great expense, to produce a thing which, in reality, will not improve the AF safety record one iota. So why and what for? Cui Bono? It has certainly provided a distraction, diverting attention away from some pretty hefty 'safety matters'. No matter, Aunt Pru has not forgotten about those.

Maybe it has to do with the seriously big changes made to the recording of the flight. When you submit an Angel Flight operation plan - you must- include  the acronym CSF in the flight notification (remarks section) and in your log book, when you are done as a CSF flight. I can see great leaps toward ultimate safety through this wise, considered, imperative process. Can't you?   I wonder what that little gem cost - in real time and real money? Heigh - Ho:




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...Sure, the Angel Flight bagatelle is of passing interest; it is despicable etc. However the actors in this little charade are ‘winding the audience up’ to a fever pitch’ Much like a magician needs to distract the careful watcher; so must CASA. Carmodiy’s arrogant statements are designed to be inflammatory; and, boy-oh-boy – ain’t it working. 


CASA, the DoIT, Ministers and many other ‘big guns’ are in deep do-do. If the big underwriters ever get close to the flames, those emanating from the government assisted cooling of the  fires lit by the Essendon DFO disaster; heads will roll; lots of ‘em. The ‘serious players in the insurance world and there are very few of ‘em must be farting blue lights.  If the Unions – like the SDA - ever get down to brass tacks and see just how little insurance is available; or, may be legally counted on there will be hell to pay...

...There is a multi story building, within the mandated confines of an active runway. It is widely known that the building should never have been approved. It is not widely known that the DFO could not, not at any price, buy insurance for an arguably illegal building being in a collision with an aircraft.


Angel Flight is a worthy cause and has my full support – but it ain’t the headline; not anymore. The CASA smoke and mirrors deflection system is at full throttle. Why else resurrect the done and dusted AF drama. To perhaps avoid a Royal Commission asking why CASA appear to be and seem determined to continue taking no responsibility for the Essendon DFO accident at all. If not the much vaunted, all seeing, all powerful, all wise, ‘safety watchdog, then whom? –Now that is a question I should like answered - fat chance, right...

Also from Horatio Leafblower off the UP: https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-a...st10390770


Quote:[Image: 46.gif] Calling out CASA's Sham "consultation"

No matter your opinion of AOPA or Angel Flight, you really must agree that the way CASA has treated the General Aviation industry has been nothing if not contemptuous and arrogant.

Congratulations to Ben Morgan who continues to take the fight up to the regulator and the politicians in a way that I can't remember AOPA doing in my 28 years in the industry.

CASA has, at the stroke of a pen, eliminated Charter effective March 2021 and with their un-consulted Community Service Flight regulations all but eliminated Angel Flight as an important VOLUNTEER community service.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I would suggest that the RAAA, Chaired by Regional Express, and the ASAP, Chaired by the pseudo-charity (heavily govt funded thru charter contracts and donations) RFDS, have the blood of the General Aviation Industry on their hands.

...oh and by the way, CASA has also eliminated "Charter" from their definition of "General Aviation"... because a Baron or a C206 or a Chieftain flown on charter is "Air Transport" just like a B747. [Image: icon_rolleyes.gif]

Watch Ben Morgan's latest here:

 
That brings me to my nominee for POTW... Wink 


Quote:Lead Balloon -  CASA behaving like arseholes? Surely not.


As everyone slowly grows up and realises that aviation regulatory standards in Australia have always been set, and will always be set, primarily on the basis of politics rather than any objective criteria, people need to decide, individually, what to do about that.

What struck me particularly about Mr Morgan’s spray was the statement that: “I’ve always voted for...”. I switched off and remain uninterested in whatever party he’s always voted for. The primary reason Australia is where it is on so many fronts - and in particular aviation - is that most people have “always voted for” one the major parties.

The problem is that a vote for any of the major parties is a vote for CASA to do whatever it wants. It’s a vote for the status quo. The major parties don’t care about aviation because it’s been conveniently abrogated to the regulator. 

If you really want to make a difference, don’t send an email to any politician. Send an email to Dick Smith urging him to urge members of the public to vote for anyone but a member of a major party, until specified changes have been made. Population, aviation, gardening or pencil widths - doesn’t matter a shit about the merits of the changes. Just say what you want, Dick.

If Dick does that, things might change. Members of the major parties will agree to do what Dick wants so as to preserve the status quo - on the grounds of safety or whatever facade needs to be put over it - and you’ll all be able to return to the practice of voting for whichever of the dumb or dumber parties to whom you’re passionately dedicated.

Otherwise, resign yourself to pretty much more of the same until around 2021, when you’ll have another opportunity to demonstrate you’ve learned something.
   

Which finally, in the lead up to the next Federal Election, brings me back to ToRs with this Dick Smith archived post:


(05-04-2018, 10:32 AM)Peetwo Wrote:  Dick Smith Wagga Aviation Oration.



Extracts from the Dick Smith Wagga Oration...

Pages 3 to 7:


The destruction of the General Aviation and flight training industry in Australia
 
Dick Smith
26 April 2018
 
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Introduction
 
Historically, there has never been such disillusionment with our democratic process.
 
There is low trust in our political parties - what is going on?
 
I come from a business background, however, over the last 30 years or so I have
had experience with the Canberra “machine”. This gives me an insight into how
that system works, or perhaps more accurately, often doesn’t work.
 
I was appointed to the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) board in 1988 and was
also Chairman of the Centenary of Federation Council. My focus today is on
the effect the Canberra ‘machine’ has had on the General Aviation industry in
Australia.
 
By General Aviation, I mean aviation other than the major airlines and defence.
That is: Charter, Training, Private and Business, Maintenance, Aerial Ag, Aerial
Ambulance, and the Rescue industries.
 
Parts of the general aviation industry are close to collapse, (see the charts on
pages 12 and 13), and it has got this way due to some really poor decisions by
those in charge.

We all laughed watching “Yes, Minister”, that wonderful, insightful BBC series
about politics and the Westminster System, however, there is a telling message
here on why our democratic system appears to be failing. Remember the
hospital without any patients segment with the famous exchange between the
Minister and Mrs Rogers, the Hospital Superintendent?
 
 
 
 
Minister: “But isn’t it appalling that it is not being used?”
Mrs Rogers: “Oh no, it’s a very good thing in some ways.
It prolongs its life - cuts down running costs.”
 
Could that be General Aviation in Australia today? Could the bureaucrats have
said, “Minister, small planes crash. If we don’t have small planes it will be safer.”
On the 3 November 1989 (nearly 30 years ago) at an Australian Made campaign
function, the then Prime Minister Bob Hawke said to me, “Dick, I have decided to
appoint you Chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority.” I replied, “No way, Prime
Minister. We are not going to have an industry in five years the way we are
going.” He said, “What are you talking about?”
 
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With the Prime Minister and Kay Cottee at the Australian Made Campaign, November 1989 - where the Prime Minister asked if I would be Chairman of the CAA.
 
I explained that with the introduction of “user pays”, the sell-off of airports and
the increased regulatory costs to the industry, there were serious problems. I
said, “The airlines will be ok. With tens of millions of passengers they can add
extra costs to the air ticket and it is hardly noticeable, but general aviation,
especially in the bush, will be destroyed.”
 
The Prime Minister said, “What can we do?” I said, “We have to make it clear
that the money spent on aviation safety is always limited by what our society
can afford. “...we have to remove every unnecessary cost - only a viable industry
can be a safe industry,” I told the PM. “Otherwise, how could it afford the cost of
implementing the best safety measures?”
 
He said, “You take on the job and I will support you,” and he did. What an
extraordinary leader and Prime Minister.
 
The do-gooders would have had Bob Hawke sacked
 
We now know that our Prime Minister was in a relationship with a journalist in
her thirties, which was kept secret by the press. Imagine if the newspapers at
the time had put his private life on the front page day after day, after day. The
do-gooders would have had Bob Hawke sacked. We would have lost one of
our best Prime Ministers and our country would be worse off. There is a lesson
here.
 
I finished my term as chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority in February 1992,
having started the reform process. I had sought advice, surrounded myself with
capable people and received strong support from industry icons such as Don
Kendall AM and Max Hazelton OBE.
 
The front page of The Australian on February 18, 1992 stated, “Good, cheap
safety touches down as Dick Smith takes off.”
 
The copy read:
 
“Affordable safety may have been a controversial concept but by admitting
that safety is limited by what those who pay for it can afford, the CAA and the
industry has been forced to examine every regulation to see which gives the
best safety and cost benefit.”
 
“If we could save a dollar and still maintain the level of safety, we changed to it.”
“Among the changes were more individual responsibility for pilots and
operators.”
 
The Australian newspaper, Tuesday February 18, 1992
 
I didn’t realise at the time that the Canberra bureaucracy did not grasp the
truism of the words “affordable safety.” Many in the bureaucracy were from the
military, where cost was not in their realm of thinking.
 
The Civil Aviation Act was then changed, introducing the new cargo cult*
regulation. This is the wording:
 
“ …CASA must regard the safety of air navigation as the most important
consideration… ”
 
Civil Aviation Act (1995 amendment)
 
Now that sounds like a great motherhood statement. In fact, it is more a
dishonest marketing slogan that would suit a fly-by-night shonky airline – or
one of our major banks!! It is a lie because there are many times where the
most important consideration is cost. This is just common sense.
 
For example, airline aircraft could be fitted with ejection capsules for each seat,
which could be activated at the time of a hijack. Safety would be improved
but the cost of air tickets would be prohibitive. Or regulators could mandate
a minimum of four engines for over ocean travel. Once again, safety would be
improved in a small way but ticket prices would be unaffordable for many.
 
*cargo cult - a belief of primitive people that if they build an aerodrome and worship correctly, “cargo” will be
delivered from the skies at no cost.
 



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The front page of The Australian on February 18, 1992 stated,
“Good, cheap safety touches down as Dick Smith takes off.”
 
Closer to home, the higher CASA regulatory costs have resulted in small towns
like Gunnedah no longer having an air service. This forces Australian travellers
onto far less safe roads.
 
To this day the bureaucrats have fought to ensure that this wording remains and
this has been the driving force behind the destruction of our once viable general
aviation and flying training industry.
 



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Good news with Minister Barnaby Joyce
 
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Former Deputy Prime Minister
Barnaby Joyce
 
In December 2017 there was some good news.
Barnaby Joyce – clearly a Bob Hawke in many ways –
was appointed the Minister. What a difference.
 
I had a breakfast meeting with Mr Joyce and pointed out that the Civil Aviation
Act didn’t mention that cost had to be considered. He instantly said, “That is
ridiculous, you always have to look at cost.”
 
It was a fantastic breakthrough. He asked me, “Dick, if you were a dictator what
would you do to get the industry going again – especially aviation in the bush.”
I said, “The first thing I would do is fix the Act so costs can be considered, and I
believe we can get the Shadow Minister, Anthony Albanese, to agree with this.”
 
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Shadow Minister
Anthony Albanese
 
Mr Joyce told me to go ahead and have a go so I used an industry expert to
come up with the new, effective wording, which says:
 
“CASA must seek to achieve the highest level of safety in air
navigation that is consistent with:
 
(a) Maintaining an efficient and sustainable Australian aviation
industry, including a viable general aviation and training sector
(b) The need for more people to benefit from civil aviation.”
 
It was just common sense. Who could possibly be against such wording? Legislation that allows cost to be considered is not a unique idea.
 
Let’s look at the equivalent wording in the British Civil Aviation Act. It says:
“...provide air transport services which satisfy... public demand at the lowest
charges consistent with a high standard of safety... and an economic return to
efficient operators... ” British CAA Act (2012)
 
Yes, totally different to our existing “safety as the most important consideration”
lie. Mr Joyce agreed with the changes and got me to discuss them with the
Shadow Minister. Within days, Mr Albanese sent back a couple of adjustments
and supported the change – fantastic.
 
That was all to change. Within two weeks, Barnaby Joyce had resigned, clearly
because he did not live in Bob Hawke times!
 


 
Change not supported by new minister, Mr McCormack
 
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Deputy Prime Minister
Michael McCormack
 
Now let’s move to the present time. I was fortunate to be able to arrange a meeting with the new Deputy Prime Minister, Mr Michael McCormack. When I asked him if he would support the change of the Act, he was undecided and said,
 
“I would like more information. I think there should be more discussion and more consultation.”
 
Now why wouldn’t he have said to me,
 
“Dick, this is just common sense - of course I will support the change - cost always has to be considered and I have read so much about the destruction of general aviation, particularly in the bush.”
 
It is very likely that Mr McCormack would have liked to have said that, but with his six years as a politician, I think his “actor” training came in. He knew that any changes to the Act that even hinted that costs should be looked at would be considered by some as reducing safety – and be beaten up accordingly in the media.
 
However, I really hope he will support the change in the future.
 
We laughed at the “Yes, Minister” segments, however, let’s think about it.
That “Yes, Minister” show is an example of how our politicians have become
actors not doers. I was shocked each time I was chair of the safety regulator
in Canberra to see how people – once the emotive word “safety” came up –
were not game to apply the common sense that I had experienced in private
enterprise for over 30 years.
 
You can’t blame individual politicians for this. The vast majority are as honest as
any Australians. It is the system we have evolved to and we have to fix it.
 
Even though I have concentrated on a story about aviation, this is also the
explanation of why so many are disillusioned with our democratic systems. No
wonder Mr Trump was elected to drain the dishonest swamp.
 
How can you revitalise General Aviation?
 
So how can we revitalise General Aviation so we become leaders in the world,
especially in flying training?
 
Quote:Firstly, we need to change the Act as agreed by Mr Joyce and Mr
Albanese – “stop the lie – change the Act – let aviation thrive!” This
should be our motto.
• Secondly, we have to ensure that CASA concentrates on the regulatory
rewrite to remove every unnecessary cost.
• Thirdly, we should harmonise with the simpler and lower cost FAA
regulations which allow a successful, safe, General Aviation industry.
• Number four, we need to get people with talent and industry experience
in as advisers to the Minister and appointed to the CASA board. For the
last 15 years, the person appointed to advise the Minister on aviation has
never been a person with the skills or the experience, or ever stated any
vision on how to grow aviation.
• Five, we need to second experienced experts from the industry to CASA
for one or two years to get the General Aviation industry thriving again.
• And six. We need to convince governments to treat aviation safety in a
bipartisan way – not the point-scoring that goes on today which clearly
damages our country.

The major parties agree on our alliance with the United States. Why? Because
it is of such national interest. What could be more of a “national interest” than
having a safe and viable aviation industry? We need the major parties to jointly
support aviation reform. The agreement between Mr Joyce and Mr Albanese is
an example of what can be achieved.
 


Mr McCormack has huge opportunity
 
Tens of millions of dollars of additional export income
 
In closing - the Deputy Prime Minister, Mr Michael McCormack, has a huge opportunity to support these common sense changes to get aviation, especially
aviation in the bush, thriving again.
 
We could become the world leaders in flight training and recreational aviation
– tens of millions of dollars of additional export income could be earned – promoting massive investment in both infrastructure and services in our country towns and regional centres.
 
The problems I have mentioned do not affect me personally, I’m fortunate. I can
afford the high costs. It’s others and my country I am concerned about.
 
Call for action
 
This is my call to action. I ask you to contact the Minister, your Local Member, the media – everyone – and ask for the “Dick Smith Wagga Proposals” to go ahead. They will be on my website. Sir Henry Parkes gave the Tenterfield Oration in 1889, which was a trigger for our Federation. Well, this is the “Dick Smith Wagga Oration” which I am hoping will trigger the revitalisation of General Aviation in Australia.
 
Aviation call for action
 
https://www.dicksmithfairgo.com.au


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Oh and if Albo, McDo'Naught, Carmody Capers & co. think we're going to stop banging on about the DFO abberration...



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Carmody Capers sham consultation continues - Dodgy


(02-16-2019, 09:47 AM)Peetwo Wrote:  Back to ToRs -  Rolleyes

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...Also from Horatio Leafblower off the UP:

Quote:[Image: 46.gif] Calling out CASA's Sham "consultation"

No matter your opinion of AOPA or Angel Flight, you really must agree that the way CASA has treated the General Aviation industry has been nothing if not contemptuous and arrogant.

Congratulations to Ben Morgan who continues to take the fight up to the regulator and the politicians in a way that I can't remember AOPA doing in my 28 years in the industry.

CASA has, at the stroke of a pen, eliminated Charter effective March 2021 and with their un-consulted Community Service Flight regulations all but eliminated Angel Flight as an important VOLUNTEER community service.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I would suggest that the RAAA, Chaired by Regional Express, and the ASAP, Chaired by the pseudo-charity (heavily govt funded thru charter contracts and donations) RFDS, have the blood of the General Aviation Industry on their hands.

...oh and by the way, CASA has also eliminated "Charter" from their definition of "General Aviation"... because a Baron or a C206 or a Chieftain flown on charter is "Air Transport" just like a B747. [Image: icon_rolleyes.gif]

Quote:Lead Balloon -  CASA behaving like arseholes? Surely not.


As everyone slowly grows up and realises that aviation regulatory standards in Australia have always been set, and will always be set, primarily on the basis of politics rather than any objective criteria, people need to decide, individually, what to do about that.

What struck me particularly about Mr Morgan’s spray was the statement that: “I’ve always voted for...”. I switched off and remain uninterested in whatever party he’s always voted for. The primary reason Australia is where it is on so many fronts - and in particular aviation - is that most people have “always voted for” one the major parties.

The problem is that a vote for any of the major parties is a vote for CASA to do whatever it wants. It’s a vote for the status quo. The major parties don’t care about aviation because it’s been conveniently abrogated to the regulator. 

If you really want to make a difference, don’t send an email to any politician. Send an email to Dick Smith urging him to urge members of the public to vote for anyone but a member of a major party, until specified changes have been made. Population, aviation, gardening or pencil widths - doesn’t matter a shit about the merits of the changes. Just say what you want, Dick.

If Dick does that, things might change. Members of the major parties will agree to do what Dick wants so as to preserve the status quo - on the grounds of safety or whatever facade needs to be put over it - and you’ll all be able to return to the practice of voting for whichever of the dumb or dumber parties to whom you’re passionately dedicated.

Otherwise, resign yourself to pretty much more of the same until around 2021, when you’ll have another opportunity to demonstrate you’ve learned something.
 


By Ironsider via the Oz today:

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Pilots have complained they were not consulted by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority over a trial of fatigue risk rules.




CASA ‘ignores pilots’ in fatigue trial

Pilots have complained they were not consulted by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority before the regulator ticked off a trial of new fatigue risk management rules by Qantas.

The Australian and International Pilots Association is concerned the 12-month trial adopts a less restrictive approach to how long pilots can work and at what times of the day and night.

AIPA president Mark Sedgwick said they had expressed their concerns to CASA about the new fatigue risk management framework but those concerns had not been addressed.

“No one knows fatigue like pilots — they live and work it every single day of their lives and we’re best placed to inform the regulator on the actual effects of long-range flying,” Mr Sedgwick said.

“No one in CASA does this sort of flying, so it’s important CASA talks to us and understands what our members are telling us and we can put that into the framework as we need to.”

AIPA safety and technical director Shane Loney said it would be preferable to base any new regulations on science rather than what might have happened in the past.

But he was hopeful the trial would lay the groundwork for a better outcome for pilots before ultra-long range flights began between Australia’s east coast and New York or London.

“We could talk Perth-London as an example (of what not to do). You’re not supposed to say ‘the aeroplane has the capability to fly that far therefore it’s a good idea, let’s do that’,” Mr Loney said.

“You’re supposed to be proactive in your assessment but none of that happened prior to starting Perth-London. We know Project Sunrise is on the way and that’s another level again.”

Mr Sedgwick said he would be encouraging AIPA members to report more regularly to Qantas on their fatigue levels and concerns throughout the trial.

“The reporting processes in the past have really been under a prescriptive framework so you can report something but it has no effect on the limits the pilot is operating to,” he said.

“Now they will have a direct effect potentially on the limits the pilot is operating to so it’s vitally important the pilot reporting is increased and we’re encouraging our members to do that.”


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