2016 Election & GA?- Policies not platitudes

Fingers crossed.

This could be the best ever election for industry.  So, votive offerings and whispered prayers to your pagan gods of choice that the balance of power stays firmly in the Senate, with Nick Xenophon.  That’s no too wild a hope is it, for aviation.  The ‘Reps’ is just a rabble and it will be a scramble for survival now, but if NX can hold the balance; or at least a lot of influence in the Senate; perhaps, maybe, some sort of nexus to aviation sanity can be forged.  Even if it’s only not being told to buzz off at estimates or having their recommendations ignored.

Aye well, time will tell I expect.  But it’s worth thinking on, if just for the simple pleasure it brings.  I know, dream on, right.

(07-03-2016, 08:40 AM)kharon Wrote:  Fingers crossed.

This could be the best ever election for industry.  So, votive offerings and whispered prayers to your pagan gods of choice that the balance of power stays firmly in the Senate, with Nick Xenophon.  That’s no too wild a hope is it, for aviation.  The ‘Reps’ is just a rabble and it will be a scramble for survival now, but if NX can hold the balance; or at least a lot of influence in the Senate; perhaps, maybe, some sort of nexus to aviation sanity can be forged.  Even if it’s only not being told to buzz off at estimates or having their recommendations ignored.

Aye well, time will tell I expect.  But it’s worth thinking on, if just for the simple pleasure it brings.  I know, dream on, right.

NX & his team look like snagging 2 and possibly 3 Senate seats and he has also won 1 HoR seat with the possibility of another. So yes totally agree NX will be in a perfect position to up the weights on issues such as aviation. Time for the Alphabets & the disenfranchised industry to ramp it up.. Wink  Phil Hurst's 100 days? - bring it on!  

While waiting for the dust to settle, here is a little bit of election humour courtesy the 'other' Aunty... Big Grin

MTF...P2 Tongue

The Morning after the night before !!!

Early Sunday Morning, just crunched the numbers off the Australian Electoral Office website.
As things stand, it looks like Nick will go back to Canberra with a full crew this time !!
He gets an F/O and an F/E !!

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NX for PM!!!

I wish! From my last analysis he had. 2.8 reps in the bag! So it looks like he will end up with 3, all going to plan. At one stage it looked like possibly 4 reps.

Nick is very astute, doesn't take shit, but is also the ultimate relationship builder. He gets along well with Lambie (Gobbles would be pleased to share his 'package' with her), and even Hinch has some ideologies that align with NX. I see Nick as 'the elder statesman', a transparent, people first, style leader, someone who should be able to pull numerous Independents together to provide a united front on certain issues.

Turnbull is an embarrassment. He called the double dissolution so he could screw over the Independents, too premature and too naive Malcolm. You may hold on to power but you just got your balls handed to you on a platter. You now have more independants, and tougher ones to contend with.

Tick tock This election shows that the people are stirring and had a gutful of the major party horseshit that is ruining our nation. People can't afford a doctor, can't afford to pay for electricity, are losing their homes, yet these Can'tberra wankers ramble on about gay marriage and 'jobs and growth' and sprouting cheap words and produce nothing. Well Malcolm and Bill you just had your wake-up call boys. TICK TOCK.

Truss - side point, but old crusty head retires now on an annual indexed pension on $300k per year, excluding free business class travel and a host of other taxpayer funded perks for life. Not a bad reward for a pissweak cardboard cutout that did SFA for anyone but himself. A great example of why the general populous are turning against the major parties and the trough swilling vermin inhabiting those parties.


Dear NX,

Please don't forget all the votes you received from the aviation community. Trust me mate, you received a lot. But never forget that the IOS don't like being double crossed or shelved after being loyal and supportive.
Best of luck with your new Independent associates. And by the way if you bump into Hannah tell her Gobbles says g'day.

Best regards

The fell tale of two miniscules.

A story to frighten the children.  A legend of the incredible damage two consecutive miniscules have inflicted on an industry and their legacy of sloth and ignorance.

Alby-Back created the beast, a foul creature dredged from the darkest swamps of bigotry and bias, the McComic and turned it loose on the happy villages, creating mayhem and madness wherever it landed, leaving behind fear, mistrust and some of the darkest deeds ever inflicted. Aye, twas indeed a dark time for the children of the blue sky god.

Out of that mayhem came a small, modest angel of mercy.  The good Rev Forsyth, a mild mannered, quiet spoken djinn who was asked to help the poor folk by the new grand pooh-bah.  He and his trusty companions set to work, they quietly found out what was troubling to good folk and worked out how best to right the wrong inflicted.  They carefully and politely wrote it all down and took back to the new grand poo-bah (GPB).  Alas, they were evilly deceived. The new GPB not only had feet of clay, but was a weak, spineless creature, intent only on preserving his position and holding on, as long as possible, to the lurks and perks his new position afforded him.  The McComic beast had left behind all manner of accomplices, acolytes and catamites; all happy to do his bidding while plotting his return.  Well children, that was never going to happen and so the remnants set about seeking a suitable successor.  

When they had trawled the depths of the lowest hell they found another McComic, only this time with better table manners.  A master of disguise and deception who so completely bamboozled the new, lazy, disinterested GPB that, despite objections, once the new McComic was established, the GBP could sit a spell and put his feet up.

And so it was that the creatures from Sleepy Hollow could relax again, the threat to their environment safely removed and all would be as it ever was.  What they did not expect, not in their wildest dreams of glory was to be gifted yet another miniscule who would trump the previous slack jawed idiots. Now they have dazzling, dancing Darren, doyen of the MKR set, celebrity judge of Dancing with Stars, master of the 'sefie', patron saint of hairstylists,  who would not, not even on his best days give a flying rats arse what they do (unless there was a photo op).  

You may think this is a faery tale; you may even think the yarn is spun from legend to frighten the children; you could even be forgiven calling bollocks.  But you wait quietly and watch carefully, you shall see the ghastly spectre of the McComic; if you listen carefully you will hear the fell laughter as the creatures of the ‘Ollow resume the wonton destruction, unabated.

IF you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet,
Don't go drawing back the blind, or looking in the street,
Them that ask no questions isn't told a lie.
Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by.

Five and twenty ponies,
Trotting through the dark -
Brandy for the Parson, 'Baccy for the Clerk.
Laces for a lady; letters for a spy,
Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by!

Aye, there’s work aplenty for Sir Nick; should he decide the game is worth the candle. We shall see.

Toot toot.

Fresh off the PAIN email loops.  Someone is not over fond of our pollies.

Does this man, as a self-funded retiree, have some answers?  We think so.


I'm frustrated with Canberra?s continuous fiddle with Superannuation contributions and rule changes. Plus the measure to re balance the Pension Assets Test to be implemented on 1st January 2017.

So here's fair warning to all politicians of any persuasion, this group of aged voters may be about to make the greatest impact on any Federal election in history; Ignoring them may be the start of a changed political environment in this country.

Change the Entitlements

I absolutely agree, if a pension isn't an entitlement, neither is theirs. They keep telling us that paying us an aged pension isn’t sustainable.

Paying politicians all the perks they get is even less sustainable! The politicians themselves, in Canberra, brought it up, that the Age of Entitlements is over:

The author is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in Australia will have this message. This is one idea that really should be passed around because the rot has to stop somewhere.
Proposals to make politicians shoulder their share of the weight now that the Age of Entitlement is over:-

1. Scrap political pensions. Politicians can purchase their own retirement plan, just as most other working Australians are expected to do.

2. Retired politicians (past, present & future) participate in Centrelink. A Politician collects a substantial salary while in office but should receive no salary when they?re out of office
Terminated politicians under 70 can go get a job or apply for Centrelink unemployment benefits like ordinary Australians. Terminated politicians under 70 can negotiate with Centrelink, like the rest of the Australian people.

3. Funds already allocated to the Politicians' retirement fund be returned immediately to Consolidated Revenue. This money is to be used to pay down debt they created which they expect us and our grandchildren to repay for them.

4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.

5. Politicians lose their privileged health care system and participate in the same health care system as ordinary Australian people. i.e. Politicians either pay for private cover from their own funds or accept ordinary Medicare.

6. Politicians must equally abide by all laws they impose on the Australian people.

7. All contracts with past and present Politicians men/women are void effective 31/12/16.
The Australian people did not agree to provide perks to Politicians, that burden was thrust upon them. Politicians devised all these contracts to benefit themselves. Serving in Parliament is an honour not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so our politicians should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will only take three or so days for most Australians to receive the message. Don't you think it?s time?

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX Parliament and help bring fairness back into this country. If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete. If you wonder why the above individuals are asking for your help, look at the figures below.

STATUTORY OFFICES Date of Effect 1 July 2014 Specified Statutory Office Base Salary (per annum) Total Remuneration for office (per annum) Chief of the Defence Force $535,100 - $764,420 Commissioner of Taxation $518,000 - $740,000 Chief Executive Officer, Australian Customs and Border Protection Service $483,840 - $691,200 Auditor-General for Australia $469,150 - $670,210 Australian Statistician $469,150 - $670,210 Salaries of retired Prime Minister and Politicians Office Additional salary (%) Salary as of 1 July Prime Minister $507,338 Deputy Prime Minister $400,016 Treasurer $365,868 Leader of the Opposition $360,990 House of Reps Speaker $341,477 Leader of the House $341,477 Minister in Cabinet $336,599 Parliamentary secretary $243,912 Other ministers $307,329 Shadow minister $243,912
Source: Remuneration Tribunal.

So if I press all the right buttons, the TOTAL annual wages for the 150 seats in the Parliament The TOTAL ANNUAL SALARIES (for 150 seats) = $41,694,311 - PER YEAR!

And that?s just the Federal Politicians, no one else!

For the 'lifetime' payment example (below) I used the scenario that:

1. They are paid lifetime salaries the same as their last working year and :-

2. After retiring, the 'average' pollie's life expectancy is an additional 20 years (which is not unreasonable). It’s worth remembering that this is EXCLUDING all their other perks!

SO, for a 20 years 'lifetime' payment (excluding wages paid while a Parliamentarian) Prime Minister @ $507,338 = A$10,146,760 Deputy Prime Minister @ $400,016 = A$8,000,320 Treasurer @ $365,868 = A$7,317,360 Leader of the Opposition @ $360,990 = A$7,219,800 House of Reps Speaker @ $341,477 = A$6,829,540 Leader of the House @ $341,477 = A$6,829,540 Minister in Cabinet @ $336,599 = A$6,731,980 Parliamentary Secretary @ $243,912 = A$4,782,240 Other ministers** @ $307,329 = A$6,146,580 x 71 = A$436,407,180 Shadow ministers** @ $243,912 = A$4,878,240 x 71 = A$346,355,040

TOTAL ?life time? (20 year) payments, (excluding wages paid while in parliament) = A$833,886,220 ? OVER $833 MILLION Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, John Howard, Paul Keating, Bob Hawke, et al, add nauseum, are receiving $10 MILLION + EXTRA at taxpayer expense.

Should an elected PM serve 4 years and then decide to retire, each year (of the 4 years) will have cost taxpayers an EXTRA Two and a half million bucks a year! A$2,536,690 to be precise. A 2 year retirement payment cut-off will SAVE our Oz bottom line A$792,201,909 *** NEARLY $800 MILLION.

There are 150 seats in House, minus the 8 above = 142 seats, divided equally for example = 71 each for both shadow and elected ministers.

This example excludes all wages paid while a parliamentarian AND all perks on top of that - travel, hotels, secretarial staff, speech writers, restaurants, offices, chauffeured limos, security, etc. etc.

150 seats, 20-year payment of A$833,886,220 less annual salary x 2 years of A$83,388,622. [$41,694,311 x 2] ?Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better to change the locks.?


ACTION: Push for a MAX 2 year post retirement payment (give ‘em time to get a real job).

Spread it far and wide folks. People should know.


Works for me - the cost of 'government' is paid for by - Guess who?  Still puzzled - look in the mirror; the answer is right there.

The above post should get this months chocolate egg award!!

If only you could add in the other perks and rorts once they retire - free airfares (business class), personal drivers, ex PM's get an office, stationary and a P.A, and the rorts continue.

They are all disgraceful snout in the trough grubs. It's a fucking disgrace. Think about how much better off you aren't compared with 10, 20, 30 years ago. So what have any of these Politicians done that has earned them the right to be so luxuriously compensated? Spot on - SFA!! They are a dismal failure.

You can smell the changes in the air. It's happening worldwide. You can only oppress people for so long, then the people react. The politicians, the 1 percenters, the Wall Street bankers and the elite have wrecked our lives, our futures, our grandkids futures. Their day of reckoning is coming.....TICK TOCK vermin TICK TOCK. You will have to run but there will be nowhere to hide.

Two pints of opinion please.

Does Australian aviation cares who forms a government?  The short answer is no. In fact the closer the two parties are to a ‘hung’ parliament, the better the chances of actually getting the appalling state of aviation administration and the costs the current situation is demanding under some form of rational, responsible, accountable control. Even if it is only fiscal.

For far too long, successive government have been content to rely on the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and it’s associated agencies.  It is a convenient arrangement where the Minister of the day can know, with some certainty and confidence, that there are multiple layers of ministerial safety built into the system to protect them from all and any responsibility. This is fine for government.  However, abrogating all ministerial responsibility and control has allowed the agencies, particularly the CASA to run unchecked. This to the point where even the Supreme court in WA was persuaded by the ‘mystique’  and the fear of blood on their hands, that CASA was ‘above the law’ when it came to matters relating to ‘air safety’.  This, standing alone, is ludicrous. Anyone who believes that anything CASA do or could do make flying on Qantas any safer than it is needs help.  Industry expertise has built, with blood, sweat and hard learned lessons the reputation for safety Australia enjoys; CASA is simply a parasite feeding very well off the talent, skill, experience and wisdom of industry.

Previous Ministers have sat on their hands and turned a blind eye to the outrageous cost of regulatory reform. It has been estimated, but not audited, that within the past three decades over 300,000,000 tax payer dollars have been invested in the still to be complete ‘new’ regulatory suite.  A suite which is internationally embarrassing and has provoked those directly involved or associated with industry into open rebellion.  There is tangible, measurable fury against the impractical, overly prescriptive, strict liability, criminal law based, operationally incomprehensible, impossible to comply with, expensive, counterproductive, no value rule set; which has not improved ‘safety’ one solitary iota.  In fact many would support the argument that many of the rules can promote ‘un-safe’ practices, in the form of ‘double standards’ i.e. that which is seen to be ‘compliant’ as opposed to that which actually takes place. The latest inutile rule sets have produced nothing except expense and aggravation; with particular reference to rules relating to the nonadministrative aspects of aircraft maintenance, pilot fatigue and ‘licencing’.

Consecutive ‘big party’ governments have not only allowed the situation to develop, they have happily funded the abomination.  For aviation, particularly the smaller end of town, the very best thing would be a parliament where Nick Xenophon held the whip hand.  He and some of his Senate colleagues are the only politicians who have taken the time and trouble to ask the right questions.  They almost understand, they certainly have been educated and had their eyes opened.  Pel-Air rocked ‘em, hit ‘em hard; the lights came on.  Regrettably, despite their best efforts there are still 30 odd recommendations they made relating to the Norfolk Island ditching of a Pel-Air medical transfer flight which have just be ignored. There are yet another 30 odd recommendations relating to the reform of the ‘regulator’ provided by an independent report, commissioned by government, not only outstanding, but being treated as merely ‘an opinion’.

No. For aviation only Xenophon and the Senate crew really matter; the rest, just another well stuffed, irresponsible government determined, at any cost (to the taxpayer) to avoid all contact with matters aeronautical.

Thank you M’dear, I enjoyed those.  Yes please; set ‘em up again, we have friends joining us.

Toot. - FFS - bloody toot.

You do realize that 'we' all voted for this charade and pay (dearly) for it.


The Embuggerance of Barnaby.

It is a good thing to see Barnaby’s smile as his embuggerance ends. The increase majority reflecting (IMO) the thoughts of the average Joe public. Bloody silly little dust up – tea cup storm – the whole country held up on a legal technicality; time, money effort and aggravation – to prove what?

We can only hope that this brief encounter with embuggerance gives him an insight into ‘matters aeronautical’ and the routine embuggerance of operators, aircrew and engineers. Perhaps Barnaby can now thank Daren Chester (properly) for blasting his picture all over social media; perhaps he may even decide this is not a good image for the party or himself. Bad enough to be snapped at the trough, let alone caught pissing in it.

Aviation spelled as per the politicians dictionary - go figure.........

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From the 'Net'. Worth a moment or two:-

Late Show


Testing few features.

From the ABC -

Do not reverse onus of proof for black economy crimes say experts.

This is going to get interesting – let’s see how the great unwashed, long suffering, voting Australian tax payer likes a dose of CASA style ‘strict liability’. Are the nations ‘earners’ going to put up with it? My bet, they won’t realise what’s happening until it’s far too late to change it. I hope someone is paying attention. Guilty until proven innocent – I can see the public just loving the crap out of that. One thing though, whichever party offers to strike out the ‘new’ regulation will win a landslide election.


You kids just can’t be trusted....

Interesting article Mr Ferryman, thank you for posting it. It really gets to the heart of one the big issues affecting aviation. From Kharons previous post and the article link;

“Tax experts and business lobbies have hit out against a Treasury proposal to reverse the onus of proof — that is to say that someone is guilty until they prove themselves innocent — as part of a bid to stamp out illegal cash economy activity.”

Our very own Dr Voodoo, having presided over CAsA’s legal department for a long long time and having had a front row seat at the trough for almost 25 years at CAsA is famous (infamous) for saying; “aviators are guilty of something, it’s just that most of them haven’t been caught yet”. Yes, sadly fools like Aleck are conditioned to believe that those who work in aviation are guilty of some form of nefarious criminal activity in which severe punitive actions must be applied, even when proof of no wrong doing has been discerned.

‘Guilty until proven innocent, and even if proven innocent you are still guilty’! Just ask Bruce Rhoades, Paul Phelan, Karen Casey, the late Gerald Repacholi, Shane Urquhart and a host of other operators who have been belted by CAsA and it’s endless bucket of legal money or have had their plight crushed as they try to find justice for the death of their loved ones and loss of their business. Terry, Jonathan and other members of The Golden West Mafia are a testimony to this perverted Government mindset. Ironic considering endless Politicans and senior bureaucrats are constantly getting pinged themselves for being lying, deceitful, despicable shonks. I guess it takes a thief to know a thief, hence their mistrust of us avaition IOS innocents.

Tick Tock

Well caught GD - Choc Frog......P7.

Federal ICAC an election issue? 

There was movement in the Nation, for the word had got around, that the average Aussie punter has had a gutful of trough feeding, do nothing pollies and their self-serving bureaucrats... Dodgy 

Choc frog to Juice media... Wink 


MTF...P2  Tongue

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