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P7 - Re posted – failed link.

And; the IOS throw down 'the gauntlet'.

One of the great things about today's world is the internet; and, the ability to actually call a full IOS meeting – no Pub, no darts, no BRB, just the computers working overtime.

After we'd all listened to AOPA's (long) opinions and position; followed by Buckley's damning, evidence supported claims; it was decided to set AOPA a challenge; a puzzle if you will. For if AOPA 'really' want to expose the resident 'evil' inherent in the system, then the following case should – open up a whole new world to the Senators who are 'allegedly' paying so much attention. It is, and make no error 'a teaser' – but followed both forward and backward – it will reveal, properly examined, so much more than Buckley ever experienced or could even imagine about 'how' CASA actually 'do' business.

'We' shall e-mail just one critical document to AOPA – let's see what they do with it. Lots paying attention to this – it is all about 'clout', real integrity, real accountability and – real political will.

Morgan will have the document by 0830 hrs – LMT – tomorrow – we shall, as they say in the classics – see what we shall see.

The IOS do mean business – let's see if AOPA are capable of taking the lightweight 'Buckley' sparring bout to the next, heavy weight level. If the gloves are really coming off – the before and after – surrounding this singular, fatal event and the data provided – matter; they really, really do.

Capt. Andy Wilson. RIP. - K9 – Edit - Flawed link and scrambled data version removed – Senate version - HERE – for easier reading.

P2 Addendum: For the benefit of BM some more background on the ATSB Canleyvale investigation etc..etc

References from the 2013 Aviation Accident Investigations Senate Inquiry report:
(Ref: Para 6.32 - Chapter 6)

6.37      While the committee acknowledges it has not had the opportunity consider this report, or the transcript of the AAT hearing, in detail, it would like to express concern about the following matters, given what the committee now knows about the Pel-Air incident:

• while the incident occurred in June 2010, the ATSB only issued its final report on 20 December 2012, some two and a half years later. This is a similar timeframe to the Pel-Air report, which is discussed in Chapter 3;
  
  
• the ATSB concluded that ‘it was unlikely that any deficiencies in the pilot’s PA-31 endorsement training contributed to the accident’,[46] despite acknowledging in its report that the pilot had not received training in mid-flight engine failure. The committee notes that the ATSB reports engine surging led to the pilot’s actions, which resulted in the crash[47];
  
  
• the ATSB also concluded that ‘no organisational or systemic issue was identified in respect of CASA’s surveillance that might adversely affect the future safety of aviation operations’[48]. This is despite the fact that a post-incident Special Audit by CASA led to a suspension of Skymaster’s AOC because of a ‘serious and imminent risk to air safety’ [AATA 61, point 5]; and
  
  
• the ATSB excused CASA’s lack of oversight on the basis that the companies had two separate AOCs and therefore CASA investigators may not have been aware that Avtex owned Skymaster[49]. However, during the AAT review, CASA justified the cancellation of Avtex’s AOC due to CASA’s opinion that ‘because of the close relationship between Avtex and Skymaster, and the joint resources shared by those companies, if Avtex continued its operations under its AOC, that would also result in a serious and imminent risk to air safety’ [AATA 61, point 5].
  

6.38      The committee considers that this report, and the associated evidence from the AAT review, could point to a disturbing trend where the ATSB disregards or excuses CASA failures. It appears, from the publicly available material, that there are significant similarities between this and the Pel-Air report. The committee is of the view that the establishment of the independent panel (recommendation 8) should play a vital role in ensuring no such reporting trend continues.

Plus from Additional Comments by Senator Nick Xenophon:

1.19      It is also important to note the committee's discussion of the ATSB's Canley Vale report. This incident (also a medical flight) tragically resulted in the deaths of both the pilot and the nurse onboard. The ATSB's response to this accident was similar to its report into the Pel-Air ditching. The ATSB also made it very clear in its report that it did not consider CASA's failure to oversee the operator appropriately as relevant.  The validity of that view is, I believe, a direct parallel to that exposed by this inquiry for the Pel-Air ditching and equally alarming.

..plus refer to the AP forum thread: Closing the safety loop - Coroners, ATSB & CASA

MTF? - Yes much me thinks...P2