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Dots, dashes & ICAO ADREP aberrations -  

To begin a quick trip down memory lane...

Reference O&O post #1.

From the Feb 2015 PT post: Did Australia mislead ICAO over the Pel-Air crash? 

...and is understood to be likely to become an early focus of the same Senate committee that exposed the truth about the original CASA cover up of the deficiencies in Pel-Air’s Westwind jet operations at the time of the 2009 ditching near Norfolk Island.

Ministerial spokesperson responds:

The ATSB advises that it did report the Pel-Air accident off Norfolk Island to ICAO, which is confirmed through a check of the iSTARS database.

The accident did not appear in the Annual Safety Report Asia Pacific Region (2002-2011) because the report is limited to scheduled commercial operations above 5,700kg. The Pel-Air accident off Norfolk Island was not a scheduled commercial operation so it was excluded from the report.

This statement doesn’t address all of the issues in the post.

It specifically ignores the other instance of ATSB amnesia in its ten year review of fiuel management accidents and incidents, which included events involving non scheduled services by aircraft smaller than the Westwind that was ditched off Norfolk Island.
A complete response to the post continues to be sought from the Minister.

The statement from the ministerial minion I call total and utter bollocks, the miniscule (Truss in this case) has again been fed a line that doesn't match the factual evidence.

Here is an entry from that same iSTAR database extract, totally unrelated to VH-NGA, summarised in an ASN occurrence report:

ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 123055
Last updated: 13 July 2017
This information is added by users of ASN. Neither ASN nor the Flight Safety Foundation are responsible for the completeness or correctness of this information. If you feel this information is incomplete or incorrect, you can submit corrected information.

Date: 20-JAN-2010
Time:
Type:

Cessna 560XLS Citation Excel
Owner/operator:
NetJets Europe
Registration:
CS-DXR
C/n / msn:
560-5748
Fatalities:
Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 2
Airplane damage:
Substantial
Location:
Amsterdam-Schiphol Airport (EHAM) -   Netherlands
Phase:
Landing
Nature:
Ferry/positioning
Departure airport:
Rotterdam Airport (EHRD)
Destination airport:
Amsterdam-Schiphol Airport (EHAM)
Narrative:
While landing on Runway 06 at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport the crew attempted to stop the aircraft at the end of the runway. When the first officer commenced braking this however had little effect.

The first officer subsequently activated the emergency brake system, at which point the aircraft exited the runway to the right. The aircraft finally came to a halt on Runway 18L-36R, which is located at the end of Runway 06. The two occupants sustained no injuries however the aircraft was severely damaged.

Sources:

Images:

Photo: © Dutch Safetyboard

  
A Cessna 560XL has a 9 pax seating capacity and would not be my first choice for a low capacity RPT operation, not to mention the report states "..Ferry/positioning.."  

Which, unless things have changed, does not meet the definition of a scheduled commercial operation. 

Still trying to track down what historical and present entries are actually listed on the iSTAR database for VH-NGA and VH-PGW. However as the ICAO ADREP system is now inter connected via the ECCAIRS IT application tool it is now possible to access a worldwide AAI final report archive. Here is a link for that archive: http://applications.icao.int/e5web/default.asp

Doing a search through the 'query' TAB I was able to locate the following entry for VH-NGA:

Reporting form type: Other (Preliminary Report)
Report identification: AO-2009-072
Report: Aus_Isreal_VH-NGA_18Nov2009_prelim.pdf

What this obviously means is that the ATSB (as per the minion statement in the PT article extract) did report to ICAO the ditching occurrence of VH-NGA and subsequently filed the preliminary report. However the question is did this happen in the required (Annex 13) chronological order? And if it was done as per the Annex 13 book, where is the copy/record of the original AO-2009-072 Final Report?

This brings me to VH-PGW - there is no entry that I can find that would indicate that ICAO have been notified; or have had filed either a preliminary or final report on the fatal accident, near Canley vale Sydney NSW, of VH-PGW - can someone please explain??


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