01-11-2017, 09:32 AM
POC - NX vs DDDD_MNFI
Over on the NX thread the Ferryman brings up an interesting 'point of comparison', that will probably be totally ignored by our trough feeding AIOS inflicted pollywaffles yet again. However for future reference and the Aunty Pru archives, here is the chain of posts (slightly abbreviated) leading up to the K_POC :
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Over on the NX thread the Ferryman brings up an interesting 'point of comparison', that will probably be totally ignored by our trough feeding AIOS inflicted pollywaffles yet again. However for future reference and the Aunty Pru archives, here is the chain of posts (slightly abbreviated) leading up to the K_POC :
(01-10-2017, 08:26 PM)Peetwo Wrote: Saint Nick on the pollywaffle bottomless trough -
Via the other Aunty... :
Quote:Punishment for breaching entitlements 'like being slapped with a wet piece of lettuce', Xenophon says
By Julia Holman
Updated Mon at 3:04pmMon 9 Jan 2017, 3:04pm
Photo: Nick Xenophon said some politicians feel 'they're a class apart' from Australians. (AAP: Mick Tsikas)
Nick Xenophon says both parties are guilty of ignoring attempts to reform entitlements rules, and that Coalition and Labor are colluding to make sure that politicians' perks are not taken away.
Key points:The Independent senator from South Australia said he proposed a bill in 2015 that would have meant harsher penalties for breaches of the entitlement rules, but it was rejected by the Coalition and Labor.
- Senator Xenophon is calling for major overhaul of entitlement system
- Says "current rules are like being slapped with a wet piece of lettuce"
- Suggests Australia look at UK system, where an independent authority monitors and reviews politicians' expenses
He said the current punishment for breaching parliamentary rules were far too lenient.
"What dismays me about all this is back in 2015 I introduced a bill following the chopper-gate scandal involving Bronwyn Bishop that would have led to more transparency, an independent watchdog, greater financial penalties, the public having a right to complain, and also monthly disclosures of pollies perks, yet that was rejected out of hand by the major parties," he said.
"When I see the Labor Party saying that Sussan Ley's head needs to roll, it makes me sick because they're part of the cabal as well."
He said the current entitlement system was a joke and that there needed to be a major overhaul, including a financial penalty of up to four times the amount claimed if MPs are found to have breached the rules.
Quote:"Right now, the current rules are like being slapped with a wet piece of lettuce," Senator Xenophon said.
"We'll keep having these inquiries out of the Prime Minister's office, we'll keep having ministers standing aside and politicians being embarrassed, unless and until we have a new system in place."
Quote:"We need to break that cosy cabal, and the way to break it is to have an independent watchdog, and insistence that MPs have to have heavy financial penalties if they do the wrong thing.
Quote:"It's a cosy little club, they get entitlements and perks that the rest of the country doesn't get, and that's why we need to shake up this system so it will bring some pollies down to earth."
(01-11-2017, 03:16 AM)Gobbledock Wrote: Of emptying political troughs
Nicks passion and determination is admirable, and he would no doubt have the support of most Australians in any quest to make Politicans accountable for their actions and to force the removal of their 'special rights' that the rest of mankind are not subjected to. However the chances of making Politicians loose their 'trough privileges' has about as much chance as Turnbull Sachs donning a blue singlet and becoming a blue collar worker living out at Redfern.
The day that Nick makes it all happen, the removal of the 'wet lettuce leaf' replaced by the 'spikey pineapple', is the day that Bill Short'one, Dick-togs Abbott or Turnbull Sachs lay straight in bed. It will never happen. It would also become the day that Nick starts wearing Kevlar and checking out every grassy knoll that he drives past!
We all eagerly await the outcome of any proposition mooted by Saint Nick with baited breath, however that particular clock ticks ever so slowly!
Tick $$$$ Tock
Oink
(01-11-2017, 05:35 AM)kharon Wrote: Statesman v Trough dweller.
GD – “We all eagerly await the outcome of any proposition mooted by Saint Nick with baited breath, however that particular clock ticks ever so slowly!”
Don’t like ‘stats’ very much; slippery things and deceptive. But, FWIW the first AP NX post made 19/03/2015 and as of this morning has 27,868 ‘views’ : there is not one negative remark aimed at Nick; and, appreciation of the good work done by both he and his Senate colleagues is clearly reflected in those remarks. Credibility gained, trust earned and due respect freely given.
Then, we look down the list to Chester’s line. The first DDDD post was 14/02/16 and as of this morning has 29,818 ‘views’ with nary a good word said. Beginning with a clean copy book and a line of credit, the incumbent has, in a short space of time, quickly lost all credibility, destroyed the trust and respect which could have been so easily gained. Had the man been properly advised; or been prepared to listen to industry, then the stats would tell a very different tale today. As it is; well the minister is just another useless, trough dweller blithely and blindly destroying an industry by supporting and relying on one of the world's worst civil aviation administrations.
Aye, lies, damned lies and statistics – all telling the same tale.
Toot – toot.
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