11-24-2016, 11:11 AM
M&M, degrees of separation & the ultimate power. 
Lord Acton once said: “Bureaucracy is undoubtedly the weapon and sign of a despotic government, inasmuch as it gives whatever government it serves, despotic power.”
Although in our case I would add some words and change it around slightly...
“ Despotic Bureaucratic power undoubtedly reflects a weak & despondent government...(sic)”
Lord Acton also once said: “Bureaucracy tries to establish so many administrative maxims that the minister is as narrowly controlled and guided as the judge.”
The following is I believe confirmation of the veracity of the above Lord Acton quote.
Reference AP post: AIOS reaches epidemic proportions in Can'tberra
And from off the AA&MH370 thread:
Still joining dots..?? As was evident at the additional Estimates session on Tuesday and as I mentioned above, Judith Zielke certainly wears a lot of hats and wields tremendous power as Deputy Secretary and loyal lieutenant to M&M.
The ease with which Zielke appears to manipulate the various minions like Hoody, Foley (& previously Beaker) and the miniscule 4D Chester is quite remarkable.
To quote Lord Acton one final time:
“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely..."
MTF?- Definitely..P2
Ps Another example of the ultimate power that M&M and his loyal lieutenant Zielke wield was the latest O&O'd construct for the 2nd reiteration of the PelAir cover-up, described this AM by a steamed up Ferryman - 90% Steam GD.

Lord Acton once said: “Bureaucracy is undoubtedly the weapon and sign of a despotic government, inasmuch as it gives whatever government it serves, despotic power.”
Although in our case I would add some words and change it around slightly...
“ Despotic Bureaucratic power undoubtedly reflects a weak & despondent government...(sic)”
Lord Acton also once said: “Bureaucracy tries to establish so many administrative maxims that the minister is as narrowly controlled and guided as the judge.”
The following is I believe confirmation of the veracity of the above Lord Acton quote.
Reference AP post: AIOS reaches epidemic proportions in Can'tberra
And from off the AA&MH370 thread:
(11-22-2016, 05:06 PM)Peetwo Wrote:(10-16-2016, 10:26 AM)Peetwo Wrote: Captain's Log 16.10.16: The trouble with correcting the record.
(10-14-2016, 10:32 AM)Peetwo Wrote:Quote:
Quote:Quote:ATSB jumped gun on MH370[img=0x0]http://pixel.tcog.cp1.news.com.au/track/component/author/0573acb566bb47c45e64e4c55a998aba/?esi=true&t_product=the-australian&t_template=s3/austemp-article_common/vertical/author/widget&td_bio=false[/img]
12:00amEAN HIGGINS
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau was wrong to say it had consensus on a “death dive” theory for flight MH370.
..Internal ATSB documents obtained by The Australian show that while a senior investigator drew the incorrect “consensus” statement to the attention of colleagues only minutes after the bulletin was released, the organisation never issued a correction and instead secretly deleted the claim from its website the next day, after it had been widely reported internationally...
..Subsequently, ATSB MH370 spokesman Daniel O’Malley and JACC chief co-ordinator Judith Zielke would also not say why the “consensus” line had been secretly disappeared.
When The Australian reported the deletion of the sentence, the ATSB issued a denial on its website, saying the report “falsely accuses the ATSB of ‘secretly retracting’ information”.
In a statement after it had been made aware of the FOI material, the JACC said:
“The information was retracted when it was learned not all working group members had, at that stage, provided formal responses. Subsequently a consensus view was reached.”
Well while trolling M&Ms website I noted that the 'email chain' released under FOI is now on M&M's disclosure log:
Quote:28/09/16 MH370 Operational Update Bulletin (17-18) PDF: 198 KB
Subject: Operational Update [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
et al.,
Not sure who to contact about this but I just noticed the words in the operational update:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370‐pages/updates/operational‐update/
“The last satellite communication with the aircraft showed it was most likely in a high rate of descent in the area of what is known as the 7th arc. This is indeed the consensus of the Search Strategy Working Group.”
At this stage it is probably ATSB s47G view that those communications likely indicate a high rate of descent. It is certainly not yet the consensus position of the SSWG as that involves s47G, s47G and, s47G of which 2 parties are yet to make a formal response on the subject.
I suggest we remove the last sentence at the very least.
Also, given that this update has information related to the SSWG, would it be better in the future for myself, or s22 to check the content before public release to avoid this sort of error?
Regards,
s22
Yes agree, s22 could you talk to s22 and get the last sentence taken out as per below and reloaded to both websites
Regards
s22
Senior Transport Safety Investigator
Australian Transport Safety Bureau
Search for MH370 – Operations Team
FYI.
s22
Director, Joint Agency Coordination Centre
Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development
For those interested s22 of the FOI Act reads:
Quote:22 Access to edited copies with exempt or irrelevant matter deleted
Scope
(1) This section applies if:
(a) an agency or Minister decides:
(i) to refuse to give access to an exempt document; or
(ii) that to give access to a document would disclose information that would reasonably be regarded as irrelevant to the request for access; and..etc
&.. s47G reads:
Quote:47G Public interest conditional exemptions—business
(1) A document is conditionally exempt if its disclosure under this Act would disclose information concerning a person in respect of his or her business or professional affairs or concerning the business, commercial or financial affairs of an organisation or undertaking, in a case in which the disclosure of the information....
Also I believe that Judith Zielke (the wearer of many hats) was and is still the JACC Director.
This is confirmed by another fascinating document which was also released under FOI three weeks before and basically outlines the script that M&M's department want miniscule 4D Chester to adhere to:
Quote:09/09/16 Recent JACC Ministerial Brief (17-10) PDF: 289 KB
Note the box in the top LH corner...
For decision by: 29 July 2016
...considering Zielke cleared the miniscule briefing on the same day, it is quite obvious the decision had already been made before it got anywhere near 4D's office.
The next bit reads...
Reason: To ensure timely notification to Malaysia of funding requirement
Now consider that the dates from the ATSB acknowledged cock-up email chain feature on the 27th to 28th of July, you begin to see why the JACC & ATSB went into some strange subterfuge mode - i.e. deny-obfuscate-deny..![]()
JACC said...
..JACC chief co-ordinator Judith Zielke would also not say why the “consensus” line had been secretly disappeared...
& then said...
..In a statement after it had been made aware of the FOI material, the JACC said:
“The information was retracted when it was learned not all working group members had, at that stage, provided formal responses. Subsequently a consensus view was reached.”...
Want to bet the above statement was made after the Malaysian funds were confirmed to be in the bank...
Still joining dots..?? As was evident at the additional Estimates session on Tuesday and as I mentioned above, Judith Zielke certainly wears a lot of hats and wields tremendous power as Deputy Secretary and loyal lieutenant to M&M.
Quote:ventus45 Wrote: Who is "the woman" in that photo ?
Both Dolan and Foley are (by body language) obvious "subordinate" to her.
Is she Murky's shadow ?
Quote:ATSB CC Dolan spotted in KL = Tripartite meeting is a farce -![]()
Dolan accompanied by Peter Foley (and some other dude?) was caught leaving the first day of the MH370 Tripartite meeting in KL:
Also if you go to this tweet link (courtesy of Melissa Goh) you will see some video footage: https://twitter.com/MelGohCNA/status/744739181599985665
P2 - Judith Zielke from JACC & Murky's deputy I think??
The ease with which Zielke appears to manipulate the various minions like Hoody, Foley (& previously Beaker) and the miniscule 4D Chester is quite remarkable.
To quote Lord Acton one final time:
“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely..."
MTF?- Definitely..P2

Ps Another example of the ultimate power that M&M and his loyal lieutenant Zielke wield was the latest O&O'd construct for the 2nd reiteration of the PelAir cover-up, described this AM by a steamed up Ferryman - 90% Steam GD.
