I get the point "oh-wise-one", but although "blue in the face" is on target, I am "seeing" red these days.
As for "duff-gen / nee data", I still think "the Malacca Strait radar story" is the source of the problem. I am convinced the white circle in the Lido slide is the "smoking gun", and all the rest, ie, the DSTG's "given" ten second data up the Strait is "contrived", put bluntly, it is bunk.
For those who beleive in the Malacca Strait story, the following may assist them in trying to "verify" their modeled 3D flight paths (altitude at range "x" on radial "y").
The two PSR's involved are the Radar just east of the Butterworth Runway, and the Radar on top of Western Hill on the Island of Penang.
The Butterworth PSR Radar head is virtually at Sea Level (approximately 21 Meters / 70 feet) elevation.
The Western Hill PSR Radar head is at (approximately 814 Metres / 2,670 feet) elevation.
On the night - atmospheric issues may have caused some refraction of the the returns, with those received at Butterworth possibly more refracted than the returns received at Western Hill.
In any case, the Radar Horizon from Western Hill (in the direction of interest, north west) is much further than that from Butterworth, due, primarily, to it's elevation being a very significant 2,600 higher above sea level, and secondly, it is a few miles south west of Butterworth.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oi3ge08efqp0lp...h.gif?dl=0
Details follow.
RMAF Butterworth Primary Search Radar
Antenna Elevation ~ 21 Metres - 70 Feet
LAT: 5° 28.327'N
LON: 100° 23.675'E
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3k3cmf4s3f5abt...t.gif?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdvuwmylvnpil9...r.kml?dl=0
RMAF Western Hill Primary Search Radar
Antenna Elevation ~ 814 Metres - 2670 Feet
LAT: 5° 25.479'N
LON: 100° 15.057'E
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxqsnlbyibwmzr...t.gif?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2xuakkxrmevs1...l.kml?dl=0
And as for today's latest offering from the ATSB, re the presented analysis of the inner part of the right outboard flap, I note:
(1) There is no information in the report on “the outboard end” of the inboard part of the right outboard flap.
Why ?
(2) The failure mode of the flap support bracket was what I wanted to see – and we get – “nothing”.
Why ?
As for "duff-gen / nee data", I still think "the Malacca Strait radar story" is the source of the problem. I am convinced the white circle in the Lido slide is the "smoking gun", and all the rest, ie, the DSTG's "given" ten second data up the Strait is "contrived", put bluntly, it is bunk.
For those who beleive in the Malacca Strait story, the following may assist them in trying to "verify" their modeled 3D flight paths (altitude at range "x" on radial "y").
The two PSR's involved are the Radar just east of the Butterworth Runway, and the Radar on top of Western Hill on the Island of Penang.
The Butterworth PSR Radar head is virtually at Sea Level (approximately 21 Meters / 70 feet) elevation.
The Western Hill PSR Radar head is at (approximately 814 Metres / 2,670 feet) elevation.
On the night - atmospheric issues may have caused some refraction of the the returns, with those received at Butterworth possibly more refracted than the returns received at Western Hill.
In any case, the Radar Horizon from Western Hill (in the direction of interest, north west) is much further than that from Butterworth, due, primarily, to it's elevation being a very significant 2,600 higher above sea level, and secondly, it is a few miles south west of Butterworth.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oi3ge08efqp0lp...h.gif?dl=0
Details follow.
RMAF Butterworth Primary Search Radar
Antenna Elevation ~ 21 Metres - 70 Feet
LAT: 5° 28.327'N
LON: 100° 23.675'E
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3k3cmf4s3f5abt...t.gif?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdvuwmylvnpil9...r.kml?dl=0
RMAF Western Hill Primary Search Radar
Antenna Elevation ~ 814 Metres - 2670 Feet
LAT: 5° 25.479'N
LON: 100° 15.057'E
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxqsnlbyibwmzr...t.gif?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2xuakkxrmevs1...l.kml?dl=0
And as for today's latest offering from the ATSB, re the presented analysis of the inner part of the right outboard flap, I note:
(1) There is no information in the report on “the outboard end” of the inboard part of the right outboard flap.
Why ?
(2) The failure mode of the flap support bracket was what I wanted to see – and we get – “nothing”.
Why ?