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Update: The Oz (Bailey) v ATSB (Beaker) wars - Game on definitely 

Yesterday the ATSB (read Beaker) came out with a riposte to the Bailey Weekend Oz 9-10 blogged article, AP post reference - And at the end of RD II. The last time this 'correcting the record' approach was seriously deployed by the ATSB, was when the credibility of the MH370 SIO search - & Bean-counter Beaker's (pride & joy) the Fugro tender - came under fire - The capability of the MH370 search operation 2 June 2015.

However again I question the true veracity of the ATSB indignation, for IMO this has nothing whatsoever to do with defending the reputation of the bureau, the JACC, or by default the Australian Government. If that were true then the 'correcting the record' media statement should have come from the JACC. From JACC webpage:

The JACC is the coordination point for whole-of-Australian Government information, messaging and stakeholder engagement, including keeping the families of those onboard and the general public informed of the progress of the search.

The JACC continues working closely with the Government of Malaysia, which under international law has overall responsibility for the search.

The JACC does not perform any search, recovery or investigation activities. These activities remain the responsibility of the expert agencies.

 
So the JACC is supposed to have carriage/responsibility for disseminating all MH370 SIO news, developments etc. not the ATSB. IMO all that any MSM media inquiry, on the Bailey opinions & criticisms, should have elicited from the ATSB was a firm - NO COMMENT. 

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Brock McEwen
Posted January 19, 2016 at 1:55 am | Permalink

It is encouraging to see the ATSB stating so clearly and unambiguously that a) the primary radar track appearing in the Lido Hotel image forces constant cruising speed during MH370’s purported westbound leg, and b) a constant cruising speed forces a constant cruising altitude over this same period.

They should simply be asked to square this unassailable logic with their decision to both enter (“flew faster”, AMSA release, March 28, 2014) and exit (“primary radar data pertaining to altitude is regarded as unreliable” – A. Houston, apparently JUST coming to this realization, June 24, 2014) a search zone thousands of kilometres from where the actual evidence was pointing.

Excellent points Brock makes, this frank disclosure should also not be ignored..

"..While the aircraft passed by Penang, the radar data shows that the aircraft certainly did not circle the island.." 

It is a bit like trying to extract teeth but bit by bit we get small snippets of information that further challenge the veracity of the widely disseminated & accepted official narrative.

P7 quote from 'criminal act' thread..

"..Will that man 'Iggins now mop up? Balance the tale and perhaps explain why AMSA was eased out and ATSB slithered in, with the escape module pre-loaded..."

The question I always come back to, why was AMSA, the Government Marine & SAR experts, shunted out of the way in favour of the transport safety investigator & led by a severely discredited (after PelAir), 30 year bureaucrat with absolutely NFI about aviation safety, let alone marine survey or SAR, in Martin Dolan??

I also question the repeated protestation in the recent missive that the ATSB sole tasked responsibility is to oversee the conduct of the SIO deep underwater search. This seems to conflict with evidence that there has been further analysis of the radar tapes to which the ATSB MH370 program team have referred.

From ATSB missive:

It is the responsibility of the Government of Malaysia, as the state of registration of the aircraft, to establish why MH370 disappeared and it has established an Annex 13 Investigation to undertake this activity.

It should also be remembered that under Annex 13, because we have lost 6 citizens in this tragedy, we are entitled to have representatives on the JIT team. But according to available records we don't (reference para 2.5 ICAO APAC Meeting 4-8 Aug 2014), which IMO is unforgiveable.

2.5 JRCC Australia and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) jointly determined a search area strategy correlating information from a Joint Investigation Team (JIT) located in Malaysia comprised of specialists from Malaysia, China, USA, UK and France, and other government and academic sources. Analysis work was undertaken independently, collaboratively and by consensus. The analysis process included independent validation of results.

It is also clear that in the early stages of ATSB involvement that they were very much regarded as the TS investigators that were assisting the searchers - AMSA/JRCC.

In hindsight the following joint press conference is very interesting when you consider that this what shortly before the ATSB was placed in charge of the deep sea SIO search & two days before former PM Tony Abbott established the JACC:

Day 11 Media Briefing
28/03/2014
 
General Manager of AMSA's Emergency Response Division John Young and Australian Transport Safety Bureau Chief Commissioner Martin Dolan give an update on the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

• SD Video - MP4 - 421MB
  
• Radio - MP3 - 20MB
  

 
"..He will answer questions about aircraft accident investigation issues.."
 
It is also quite revealing that three days later that the very useful (at the time) & interactive AMSA MH370 timeline finished:

As the search for MH370 transitions from a search and rescue operation to an investigation phase the Joint Agency Coordination Centre takes over the day to day communications.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) continues to coordinate the surface search but is now part of a larger interagency response including the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, Department of Defence, Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, and the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development.

All these agencies continue the search as part of the Joint Agency Coordination Centre.

Disclaimer
This timeline has been developed as an historical resource to preserve for the record the public information released by AMSA during the period in which AMSA was the lead agency in the search for Malaysia Airline's flight MH370.

During this period AMSA released a large amount of public information in the form of press conferences, media releases, images, charts, video, audio files and social media posts.

This content has been preserved in this timeline without amendment and in the order in which it was released. This timeline was developed as the events occurred. AMSA reserves the right to provide corrected information in the future if any inadvertent errors occurred when this information was first published.

The information contained in this webpage is not a comprehensive report on all of AMSA's operations during this period and as such is only intended to provide an overview of AMSA's public communications and not an official version of events.

 
 A lot changed in the space of three days, & in my opinion it wasn't for the greater good in the search for MH370-  


MTF...P2

Ps Comment: Things were so much more transparent before Dolan took charge, no informative press conferences or interactive timelines from the bureau or the JACC. Just the occasional controlled & PC'd pressers & defensive missives, that the ATSB should never have published anyway. 

Oh well at least AMSA know the rules - "..AMSA's communications to media, government agencies and diplomatic posts are redirected via JACC..."

Edit P2 - Just helping out here "K"  

Gun fight at the Not-so-Ok corral.

And Beaker brought his Mum’s pocket knife.  Did the Bailey article (via ‘Iggins) do it’s job?  Oh I think so.  It blew the lid off the ATSB hidey hole and dragged it, kicking, screaming and biting, out of shadow and into sunlight.  Finally.  Whether the Bailey article provided that response, by accident or design, is one topic, among many, for the upcoming BRB.  

Things that fascinate:-

Given Australia’s very supportive role to out near neighbours why an AAI or two were not permanently assigned as part of the investigation?  As a DIP (Australian body count) and a friendly neighbour and Annexe 13 and the fact that without reliable, informed advice on the ‘investigation’ status, the search could be rendered null and void.

Then there is the strange ‘doings’ where honest, unafraid, incorruptible experts on matters maritime; AMSA, bow out and ATSB slithers in.  I alluded to this ‘anomaly’ –HERE, with many questions begging answers.  The construct is shaping up to a ‘passing strange’ conclusion.  E.g. for those who like coincidence, the commissioners contract expires ? and the search is due to be concluded ?.  Perhaps, there was a need at high paygrades, to provide a suitable escape path and a head, for the rolling thereof.  If and it’s a big IF the powers that be needed a ‘useful’ man to perpetuate a ‘legend’ then, as it happened, Australia had just the boy for the job.  

Brock nails it down and establishes the goal posts back to their rightful place very nicely.  The P2 research (above) just about spells it out, in simple words, where, when and perhaps why horses were changed – mid stream.

MTF? Absolutely and with the beast neatly popped out of it’s den, it’s open season on the ‘mystique’ and those who promote it.

Toot toot.

Liking it very much V & K will definitely have MTF..P2

Edit deletion see below