K, re your "itch" - at #102 - here http://auntypru.com/forum/-MH370-time-to...41#pid3241
I, like you, have had a similar "initial itch" from the earliest days, see here http://auntypru.com/forum/-Australia-ATS...464#pid464
I have taken the liberty of re-ordering your itches, and added (A) & (B).
(A) Why was the JACC spontaneously created out of "magic dust" ?
(B) Why was Merlin (Angus) conscripted to "front it up" ?
(1) Why was AMSA side lined ?
(2) Why was the search passed down the food chain to the ATSB ?
(3) Why was the discredited Dolan pushed centre stage, into the media spotlight ?
Let's get one thing crystal clear at the start.
Under International Law, Australia's only, repeat ONLY responsibility, in the MH-370 saga, once it became "probable" that MH-370 had entered the SIO, was for the initial SAR actions in the SIO.
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That happened on 17th March 2014, 9 days after MH-370 vanished.
AMSA started it's work on the 17th March 2014.
Now, let us be quite clear on this, SAR actions have one purpose, and one purpose ONLY, the saving of life.
Note: and I deliberately repeat and re-emphasise, that responsibility is for SAR, and ONLY SAR, ie, to search for, hopefully to find, and hopefully to rescue, people, and ONLY people, period.
That is AMSA's job, and they did it well, all things considered, until they were "booted off the case".
AMSA were booted off the case after only a staggering 13 days, not even two weeks, on the 30th March 2014.
The JACC became "head-honcho" the next day, 31st March 2014.
The full timeline of AMSA's involvement, (for the public record), is here. http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/mh370-timeline/
I recommend you spend a couple of "hours" at least, if not more, methodically going through that site.
So, why were AMSA really "booted of the case" ?
Were they so damn incompetent that they couldn't even last two weeks in the job ?
Bloody hell, that is not possible, not in the Australian Public Service !!
Gotta be something really smelly around here somewhere !!
I have a cold. My nose is all stuffed up. Can someone "sniff around a bit" for me please ?
Given all that was happening at the time, politically, one might surmise, that AMSA may have been seen by someone, somewhere, as being just too damn good at their job, and they might find something, and that maybe that someone, really did not want that. Perhaps someone needed to move the search away, far.. far.. far away, quickly.
All of a sudden, the JACC is created, the air search is cancelled, and AMSA is booted.
And who fronts up the JACC ?
One recently retired Chief of Defence.
No correlation m'lud, no correlation at all m'lud, mere coincidence m'lud.
Realistically, Australia's SAR obligation ended after a few weeks, at the end of the air search, when it was declared that there was (by then) no possibility of any possible survivors, (if the aircraft had ditched), being still alive. That should have been the end of it, period.
But it wasn't. The game changed. It was no longer "find and rescue survivors", it was ...........
The sudden creation of the JACC and the unceremonious dumping of AMSA, was a political act, obviously for political reasons. We still don't know why.
Enter the saga of the fake "black box pings".
Even the Malaysians later admitted, in their official report, that the pinger batteries were way out of date, and in all probability would not have worked anyway, certainly not for the mandated 30 days.
Those supposed "black box pings" were bullshit from day one.
Now where were those fake black box pings again ?
Oh yes, up north somewhere, on the 7th Arc, just 1,000nm west of the VLF submarine communications base, NORTH WEST CAPE. Nice place to keep in easy contact with, what was it, a RN nuclear submarine, HMS Tireless, wasn't it ?
Then, quick as a flash, the sudden appearance of a full 4 ring US Navy Captain with the TPL-25.
A full 4 ringer. Deploying the TPL-25 is usually a job for a Lieutenant, or a Lieutenant-Commander, and a few sailors, but not this time. This time, it's a FULL 4 Ring CAPTAIN, and not just any 4 ring Captain, it was Captain Mark Matthews USN, who was, at the time, Director of Ocean Engineering at the US Navy.
Now one might wonder, why send the top brass, half way around the world, just to look for a black box pinger ? Interesting. Funny that HMS Echo also makes a mad dash to the area, from the Middle East - via a short stop-over in the US Navy base at Diego Garcia too. A rather curious sequence of events, isn't it ? Passing Strange actually.
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Photo: (L-R) Vice Admiral Ray Griggs RAN Commodore Peter Leavy RAN and Captain Mark Matthews U.S. Navy, in front of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield, at HMAS Stirling naval base near Perth.
Anyway, Ocean Shield makes a dash from the east coast to the west coast, to HMAS Stirling, the TPL-25 is embarked, and off they go. A little later, Ocean Shield returns to port, the Bluefin-21 autonomous vehicle is embarked,
Director of Ocean Engineering of the US Navy - Captain Mark Matthews holds the acoustic pinger they are searching for.jp Size: 124.28 KB Downloads: 0
A few weeks pass, and the "pings" pass into history, quietly.
They had served their intended purpose, the "4D's", distraction, delay, deception, discombobulation.
No one remembers them now.
So, we have answered questions (A) (B) and (1) so far.
They are replaced by the next great "story", the Inmarsat "handshakes", a different kind of "pings", radio pings, not acoustic pings. Perhaps we should call them "pongs".
As stated above, as far as International Law is concerned, Australia's SAR obligation ended at the end of the air search, when it was declared that there was no possibility of any survivors.
The 7th arc does not penetrate Australian "territory" at all. Under Annex-13, The "investigation" is for Malaysia, and no one else (even Dolan himself maintains that line to this day (Jan-2016)).
So, one must wonder. Why did Australia volunteer, so enthusiastically, to embark on the undersea search of the whole 7th Arc in the first place ? Was it because:-
(a) we wanted to be seen as a caring people, or was it
(b) taking the opportunity for a little grandstanding on the world stage, or
© were there, deeper, perhaps darker, reasons ?
If any of the above, how do we answer Question (2) ?
There is no logical answer, until we consider Question (3).
Ask, what if the seach "goes wrong" - "fails" - "becomes a farce ?
We need a plan B Prime Minister - a fall guy.
Ah......it all makes sense now.
As of now (19th January 2016) the public position of the Australian Government, which has been made perfectly clear by Mr Truss and Mr Dolan, is that the undersea search will end, whether the aircraft is found or not, at the completion of the designated 120,000 square kilometres, currently expected by June 2016. The only proviso on that, seems to be, if something "new" comes to light.
Conclusion:
So, whatever the initial motive(s) were for the Australian Government embarking on the undersea search of the 7th Arc in the first place, they clearly have "lapsed". Interesting word that, lapsed.
Perhaps they now realise that they should never have got involved in it in the first place (unlikely), or, much more likely, perhaps there was some other "real reason" for so suddenly creating, and fronting the JACC, with Angus centre stage, which we don't know about, and likely will never know about, not this side of thirty years hence anyway, perhaps more, and which is, for whatever reason, no longer "extant".
In either case, it is clear that the Australian Government are now looking forward to a "graceful exit", when the 120,000 square kilometre zone is completed, with the only saving grace being, that at least the money has not been totally wasted, the geo-scientists have a heap of new data to play with for a few years.
I, like you, have had a similar "initial itch" from the earliest days, see here http://auntypru.com/forum/-Australia-ATS...464#pid464
I have taken the liberty of re-ordering your itches, and added (A) & (B).
(A) Why was the JACC spontaneously created out of "magic dust" ?
(B) Why was Merlin (Angus) conscripted to "front it up" ?
(1) Why was AMSA side lined ?
(2) Why was the search passed down the food chain to the ATSB ?
(3) Why was the discredited Dolan pushed centre stage, into the media spotlight ?
Let's get one thing crystal clear at the start.
Under International Law, Australia's only, repeat ONLY responsibility, in the MH-370 saga, once it became "probable" that MH-370 had entered the SIO, was for the initial SAR actions in the SIO.
That happened on 17th March 2014, 9 days after MH-370 vanished.
AMSA started it's work on the 17th March 2014.
Now, let us be quite clear on this, SAR actions have one purpose, and one purpose ONLY, the saving of life.
Note: and I deliberately repeat and re-emphasise, that responsibility is for SAR, and ONLY SAR, ie, to search for, hopefully to find, and hopefully to rescue, people, and ONLY people, period.
That is AMSA's job, and they did it well, all things considered, until they were "booted off the case".
AMSA were booted off the case after only a staggering 13 days, not even two weeks, on the 30th March 2014.
The JACC became "head-honcho" the next day, 31st March 2014.
The full timeline of AMSA's involvement, (for the public record), is here. http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/mh370-timeline/
I recommend you spend a couple of "hours" at least, if not more, methodically going through that site.
So, why were AMSA really "booted of the case" ?
Were they so damn incompetent that they couldn't even last two weeks in the job ?
Bloody hell, that is not possible, not in the Australian Public Service !!
Gotta be something really smelly around here somewhere !!
I have a cold. My nose is all stuffed up. Can someone "sniff around a bit" for me please ?
Given all that was happening at the time, politically, one might surmise, that AMSA may have been seen by someone, somewhere, as being just too damn good at their job, and they might find something, and that maybe that someone, really did not want that. Perhaps someone needed to move the search away, far.. far.. far away, quickly.
All of a sudden, the JACC is created, the air search is cancelled, and AMSA is booted.
And who fronts up the JACC ?
One recently retired Chief of Defence.
No correlation m'lud, no correlation at all m'lud, mere coincidence m'lud.
Realistically, Australia's SAR obligation ended after a few weeks, at the end of the air search, when it was declared that there was (by then) no possibility of any possible survivors, (if the aircraft had ditched), being still alive. That should have been the end of it, period.
But it wasn't. The game changed. It was no longer "find and rescue survivors", it was ...........
The sudden creation of the JACC and the unceremonious dumping of AMSA, was a political act, obviously for political reasons. We still don't know why.
Enter the saga of the fake "black box pings".
Even the Malaysians later admitted, in their official report, that the pinger batteries were way out of date, and in all probability would not have worked anyway, certainly not for the mandated 30 days.
Those supposed "black box pings" were bullshit from day one.
Now where were those fake black box pings again ?
Oh yes, up north somewhere, on the 7th Arc, just 1,000nm west of the VLF submarine communications base, NORTH WEST CAPE. Nice place to keep in easy contact with, what was it, a RN nuclear submarine, HMS Tireless, wasn't it ?
Then, quick as a flash, the sudden appearance of a full 4 ring US Navy Captain with the TPL-25.
A full 4 ringer. Deploying the TPL-25 is usually a job for a Lieutenant, or a Lieutenant-Commander, and a few sailors, but not this time. This time, it's a FULL 4 Ring CAPTAIN, and not just any 4 ring Captain, it was Captain Mark Matthews USN, who was, at the time, Director of Ocean Engineering at the US Navy.
Now one might wonder, why send the top brass, half way around the world, just to look for a black box pinger ? Interesting. Funny that HMS Echo also makes a mad dash to the area, from the Middle East - via a short stop-over in the US Navy base at Diego Garcia too. A rather curious sequence of events, isn't it ? Passing Strange actually.
Photo: (L-R) Vice Admiral Ray Griggs RAN Commodore Peter Leavy RAN and Captain Mark Matthews U.S. Navy, in front of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield, at HMAS Stirling naval base near Perth.
Anyway, Ocean Shield makes a dash from the east coast to the west coast, to HMAS Stirling, the TPL-25 is embarked, and off they go. A little later, Ocean Shield returns to port, the Bluefin-21 autonomous vehicle is embarked,
Director of Ocean Engineering of the US Navy - Captain Mark Matthews holds the acoustic pinger they are searching for.jp Size: 124.28 KB Downloads: 0
A few weeks pass, and the "pings" pass into history, quietly.
They had served their intended purpose, the "4D's", distraction, delay, deception, discombobulation.
No one remembers them now.
So, we have answered questions (A) (B) and (1) so far.
They are replaced by the next great "story", the Inmarsat "handshakes", a different kind of "pings", radio pings, not acoustic pings. Perhaps we should call them "pongs".
As stated above, as far as International Law is concerned, Australia's SAR obligation ended at the end of the air search, when it was declared that there was no possibility of any survivors.
The 7th arc does not penetrate Australian "territory" at all. Under Annex-13, The "investigation" is for Malaysia, and no one else (even Dolan himself maintains that line to this day (Jan-2016)).
So, one must wonder. Why did Australia volunteer, so enthusiastically, to embark on the undersea search of the whole 7th Arc in the first place ? Was it because:-
(a) we wanted to be seen as a caring people, or was it
(b) taking the opportunity for a little grandstanding on the world stage, or
© were there, deeper, perhaps darker, reasons ?
If any of the above, how do we answer Question (2) ?
There is no logical answer, until we consider Question (3).
Ask, what if the seach "goes wrong" - "fails" - "becomes a farce ?
We need a plan B Prime Minister - a fall guy.
Ah......it all makes sense now.
As of now (19th January 2016) the public position of the Australian Government, which has been made perfectly clear by Mr Truss and Mr Dolan, is that the undersea search will end, whether the aircraft is found or not, at the completion of the designated 120,000 square kilometres, currently expected by June 2016. The only proviso on that, seems to be, if something "new" comes to light.
Conclusion:
So, whatever the initial motive(s) were for the Australian Government embarking on the undersea search of the 7th Arc in the first place, they clearly have "lapsed". Interesting word that, lapsed.
Perhaps they now realise that they should never have got involved in it in the first place (unlikely), or, much more likely, perhaps there was some other "real reason" for so suddenly creating, and fronting the JACC, with Angus centre stage, which we don't know about, and likely will never know about, not this side of thirty years hence anyway, perhaps more, and which is, for whatever reason, no longer "extant".
In either case, it is clear that the Australian Government are now looking forward to a "graceful exit", when the 120,000 square kilometre zone is completed, with the only saving grace being, that at least the money has not been totally wasted, the geo-scientists have a heap of new data to play with for a few years.