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Comet's comment , COTY??- “…the main casualty will be our democracy”
Combined with the "V" post (above) and in light of the atrocities in Paris, I thought the following chain of excellent commentary on Ben's blog piece - ATSB now has only one set of black boxes lost at sea; or here on AP - ending with perhaps a nomination for 'comment of the year' by comet was worth regurgitating..
comet
Posted November 15, 2015 at 5:47 am | Permalink
The Pel-Air story is about government opaqueness.
We don’t know – and can only guess – why the governent safety investigator didn’t want to get to the truth, or why two government ministers (Albanese and Truss) took no interest in forcing the ATSB into line.
Unfortunately the atrocities in Paris will give governments around the world the cover they need to become more opaque and less open, while at the same time monitoring their citizens’ every move, and introducing harsher penalties for whistleblowers.
A bad event gives governments the excuse to start other bad events (eg Iraq wars). Aviation will suffer, but even worse, the main casualty will be our democracy.
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Late comment from another ditching survivor - Rod Lovell![Undecided Undecided](https://auntypru.com/forum/images/smilies/undecided.gif)
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(11-11-2015, 06:45 PM)ventus45 Wrote: The writing is on the wall, in the media, for all to see, both inside and outside the aviation community.
Re ATSB:
Clearly, yet another Beaker report, not worth reading, coming up (eventually).
They have their "template" from the "Pelair-Mk-1" saga.
Just change the names, dates, places - a little edit here - a little edit there.
Done and dusted.
Get it out fast too.
Got to get those "completed" stats up.
Re CASA:
Clearly, a carbon-copy re-run of DJ's charge sheet coming up, but this time, no doubt, with a few more thrown in for, let's just say, "spice".
Look at it from the regulator's viewpoint.
This time, the guy can be charged, tried, and convicted, in absentia, and best of all, no likely appeals to that pesky AAAT.
Everything is in their favour.
They will want to savour this one, salivate even.
It makes one wonder.
What is the real definition of tyrany ?
Is what is happening clearly not a "perversion of due process", perhaps even an "outright contempt of due process" ?
To hell with the impotent miniscule.
Perhaps it is time for the Federal Court to intervene, promptly, and directlly. - Here, here; long overdue I would have thought??
Comet's comment , COTY??- “…the main casualty will be our democracy”
Combined with the "V" post (above) and in light of the atrocities in Paris, I thought the following chain of excellent commentary on Ben's blog piece - ATSB now has only one set of black boxes lost at sea; or here on AP - ending with perhaps a nomination for 'comment of the year' by comet was worth regurgitating..
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Posted November 15, 2015 at 5:47 am | Permalink
The Pel-Air story is about government opaqueness.
We don’t know – and can only guess – why the governent safety investigator didn’t want to get to the truth, or why two government ministers (Albanese and Truss) took no interest in forcing the ATSB into line.
Unfortunately the atrocities in Paris will give governments around the world the cover they need to become more opaque and less open, while at the same time monitoring their citizens’ every move, and introducing harsher penalties for whistleblowers.
A bad event gives governments the excuse to start other bad events (eg Iraq wars). Aviation will suffer, but even worse, the main casualty will be our democracy.
'Vive la France!'- P2
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Late comment from another ditching survivor - Rod Lovell
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Quote:28Hmm...doesn't bode well for the MH370 SIO search does it?
Rod Lovell
Posted November 20, 2015 at 8:04 am | Permalink
Nothing new. In my accident (VH-EDC) they RELUCTANTLY recovered the crucial starboard engine after two months underwater.
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Rod Lovell
Posted November 20, 2015 at 8:11 am | Permalink
Just jumping on the bandwagon. From what I’ve experienced, the investigation into my accident by (the then) CAA and BASI was disgraceful.
I said about 20 years ago….
“Overall, I take great exception to the innuendo in the BASI report regarding my lack of
professionalism. Throughout my flying career I have always strived to maintain a highly
professional attitude and this flight was no exception. Some highly experienced and respected DC-3 pilots attest to my abilities in handling these and other aircraft.
The report’s coverage of the circumstances of the ditching are inaccurate, superficial and in certain areas, untrue. It is obvious that the flight operations aspects of the report were conducted without consultation with experienced and impartial DC-3 specialists. The fact that BASI did not carry out flight tests on a DC-3 of similar airframe and engine hours is but one indication of the investigation’s lack of objectivity.”
I seriously doubt whether anything in “fort fumble” or “the sheltered workshop” will ever change.
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