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Firstly, welcome to AP Brock.  We have all read and followed your discussions in the social media re MH 370.  We do appreciate logic, facts and non combative discussion; even idle speculation.  The only ‘local’ custom that does apply is we always play the ball – never the man, or do anything else which may startle the horses.  So welcome.

We do have Maldives experience to call on, however, let’s make some base line ‘operational’ assumptions, from what we have.

40 miles off course – in a cruise situation is ‘big’, but not unusual with storms around, 20 to 25 miles (nautical) is routine to ‘step’ around on track weather, 30 is relatively common, 40 not unheard of.  It depends very much on where the ‘diversion’ is started, fuel available and engine running time is always a factor.  Now then, for a Dash-8-400 with a load on board at low level a 40 mile ‘step’ at low level is an expensive business.  Draw a dot anywhere on track between the departure and destination and do the math – dot is a storm, no matter where you place the ‘storm’, which is the only reason for a 40 mile step, the aircraft must run at least an additional 80 miles (::15 minutes).  If the storm was near the destination, then 40 miles ‘running around behind’ is feasible.  Once, I racked up about 60 miles, skipping behind a storm at an island destination and following it through – so again – feasible.  Were there any storms around which would require such aerial gymnastics?

Paperwork – aviation is drowning in it.  50 seat aircraft operating scheduled, passenger services to ‘remote’ destinations require miles of it.  There must be tangible evidence from fuel dockets (time, date, place, amount loaded, by whom, which aircraft, the delivers signature and the aircrew acceptance signature).  That fuel load would be recorded, firstly on the fuel company records – as a sale - and on the aircraft ‘tech-log’ as the fuel on board (FOB) calculation made (endurance [time in air] officially recorded).  Flight deck log is an ‘official’  record with a statutory, minimum retain time.  With respect to weight, here again a mandatory calculation for take off performance and obstacle clearance, with a minimum ‘keep’ time.  But wait, there’s more.  Passenger manifests, border control, ATC records and, importantly – airport and air services charges records, all minimum specified time life which can supply a wealth of factual information.  The CAA claims of ‘time expired’ and discarded does not withstand scrutiny.  Anyway – payment for service records are kept many years – the money is always a solid trail to follow. Clever folk is they.

In short, if the movements of ‘that’ aircraft cannot be tracked down to the last gallon of fuel, the last sandwich ordered, the flight plan, the manifest, the local passenger lists and take off and landing charges; then something is terribly wrong.  If all else fails, passport and local government agencies records go back centuries.  A clear, unequivocal record could have and should have been made available to ‘eliminate’ the aircraft from our inquiry – as they say.

Operationally speaking, it is almost impossible – IMO – for there not to be a ‘paper trail’ which either positively rules out; or, confirms that the aircraft seen was a local service or, something else.

So the question stands – was it or was it not, positively, beyond a reasonable doubt DQA149?

Hey Carpenter,



A classic dis-connected, de-sensitised, de-emotionalised, self proclaimed "evil genius". 
Alarm bells!

But no, the Medium will pick this up and promote it free for him. 
Rather than a suggestive to boycott the despicable shit he has created through others pain.
Then, locked him up for a bit. No computer, no phone. Just reality.
You insulting young prick. 

I'd like to meet up with you.

Would you create a sick game regarding the plane crash I was in.
Try it!

Very, very careful of Karma, she a bitch with sharp teeth sometimes. I'd say she's chasing for a chomping of your arse like, well a game. Fancy that happening. Wouldn't be to funny then, would it?

But guess what, Reality Alert, "evil genius", it's not a game. 

It's called Reality. Perhaps a thing you could be in touch with.
Perhaps too late.

Alarm bells Feds! This is Sick. Just Sick.

Shame him, don't Fame him. Such a "normal" way of certain media productions/print now. 

Sicko. No really, you need help Mr Carpenter if you think what you & your buddies are doing is acceptable.

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE WHAT MR "Evil Genius" HAS DONE. 
It's called profiting from others pain.
How dare he.
BOYCOTT HIM!

Disgusted.
Ziggy

Well done Ziggy and enough said I reckon, let's not give this dickhead anymore free exposure shall we..  

Ok then back to the main game  i.e. trying to sort the wheat from the chaff on the tragic disappearance of MH370.

Where were we..? Ah yes P7 replying to Brock's query:

For the record: I am not trying to sell/endorse any particular speculation - merely trying to collect hard facts and clear thinking. In particular: I'd prefer to avoid heated debate over whether Kudans saw MH370, and stick to cold, scientific assessments of the claim that what they saw was DQA149.

   
To which P7 IMO did a stellar job...

MH370 Maldives theory dismissed  

• by: HEDLEY THOMAS
  
• From: The Australian
  
• June 20, 2015 12:00AM
  

National Chief Correspondent
Brisbane



A view from the air of the capital of the Maldives, Male. Picture: Lyndon Mechielsen Source: News Corp Australia

Sightings by villagers in the Maldives in March last year of an aircraft they believed could have been the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 have been reinvestigated by the head of the country’s aviation authority, resulting in the theory being all but ruled out.  

Maldives Civil Aviation Authority chairman Ibrahim Faizal said in early April that he was concerned the villagers’ claims had not been properly reviewed by Defence or other agencies in his country.

The Malaysia Airlines plane, with 12 crew and 227 passengers on board, went missing on March 8 last year.

Mr Faizal said at the time he believed the aircraft the villagers saw crossing the remote island of Kuda Huvadhoo at a relatively low altitude on the morning it would have crashed could have been the Malaysian jet.

Yesterday, he said he was now confident the villagers had seen a much smaller, 50-seat aircraft near the island at the time.


“I wanted to revisit it because I did not have all the information for me to make a call on it, hence why I had another look at this thing again,’’ he said in an email.


“I was not personally happy or satisfied at the time over what had happened (with the official review of the witness accounts).


“To be honest, now I have no reason to believe that it’s the MH flight. I am more firm in my conviction after speaking to the island council now. This whole issue was confused by other matters like the sighting of a fire extingu­isher — we found that this is not from any aircraft, let alone a B 777.


“I am convinced now, given all the information and data we have, that it was not the MH but most likely the Island Aviation Bombardier Dash 8.”

Island villagers told The Weekend Australian in March that the aircraft they saw was very large with red markings, similar to the missing jet.

Court official Abdu Rasheed Ibrahim, 47, one of several witnesses, said: “I watched this very large plane bank slightly and I saw its colours — the red and blue lines — below the windows, then I heard the loud noise. It was unusual, very unusual.”

The Australia-led search for the plane, in the southern Indian Ocean more than 5000km away, is guided by calculations of weather conditions, fuel exhaustion and other variables.

No trace of it has been found

Not selling or endorsing anything but IMO it is quite obvious that the Maldives CAA Head is lying, the question is for what possible reason/motivation did he do this?


MTF..P2