08-04-2015, 08:20 PM
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Christoph Mueller (left) speaks as James Hogan, President and CEO of Etihad Airways looks on during a panel discussion at the 2015 International Air Transport Association AGM and World Air Transport Summit in Miami Beach, Florida, June 8, 2015. — Reute
MH370 4 August developments
From the Oz:
Quote:Flight MH370 experts holding talks
Malaysian aviation experts were to meet their French counterparts and judges last night to co-ordinate the investigation into missing Flight MH370, days after the discovery of a washed-up plane part offered fresh hopes of solving the mystery.
Technical experts, including from Boeing, will from today begin examining the wing component that surfaced last week on the French Indian Ocean island of La Reunion.
The 2m flaperon, already confirmed to be part of a Boeing 777, is virtually certain to have come from the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight, as no other such plane is known to have crashed in the area.
In one of the most baffling mysteries in aviation history, MH370 inexplicably veered off course last March and disappeared from radars, sparking a colossal hunt that has until now proved fruitless.
In January, Malaysian authorities declared all 239 people on board MH370 presumed dead.
The wing part will undergo physical and chemical analysis in the southern French city of Toulouse in a bid to prove beyond doubt that the flaperon once belonged to MH370.
It will be examined with an electron microscope “that can magnify up to 10,000 times” to try to understand how it was damaged, said Pierre Bascary, former director of tests at France’s General Directorate for Armaments.
Experts have warned grieving families not to expect startling revelations from a single part. “We shouldn’t expect miracles from this analysis,” said Jean-Paul Troadec, former head of France’s BEA flight authority.
In order to provide clues as to what happened to the aircraft, “the part would need to be at the centre of the accident and the chances are fairly small,” he noted. “With two square metres of plane, it will be difficult to be sure.”
More than 9000km away, locals on La Reunion were scouring the beaches for more debris that could offer further clues.
What has been described as a “treasure hunt” mentality has led to false alarms, with locals handing in “plane debris” only to discover it is nothing more than ocean rubbish.
“People are calling us for everything,” said a local source close to the investigation.
On Sunday, there was a frenzy of speculation over what locals believed to be a plane door but authorities quickly shot down the hopes.
Malaysia’s director-general of civil aviation Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said the metallic part was “actually from a domestic ladder. It is not a door.”
Also on Sunday, La Reunion police collected a mangled piece of metal with Chinese characters and attached to what appeared to be a leather-covered handle, sparking more frenzied speculation. Chinese internet users suggested it may be a kettle.
“People are more vigilant. They are going to think any metallic object they find on the beach is from Flight MH370, but there are objects all along the coast, the ocean continually throws them up,” said Jean-Yves Sambimanan, the spokesman for Saint-Andre where the wing debris was found.
Scientists say it is plausible that ocean currents carried a piece of the wreckage as far as La Reunion, but Roland Triadec, a local oceanographer, said La Reunion represented only “a pinhead” in the Indian Ocean and the likelihood of other debris washing up there was low.
AFP
Too little to late
Next there was this reported in the West Australian & Yahoo7:
Quote:Plea to search coast for MH370 debrisDo we care?
Geoffrey Thomas August 4, 2015, 12:35 am
Plane debris found on the Indian Ocean island of La Reunion.
Malaysia has asked for help from around the southern Indian Ocean, including WA’s South West coast, to look for possible debris from MH370 but urged caution after false leads.
Yesterday Charitha Pattiaratchi, professor of coastal oceanography at the University of WA, reiterated that computer modelling indicated debris from MH370 could have washed up in the South West.
Modelling also showed debris could have reached as far as South Australia and Tasmania.
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But it is unknown how much debris from MH370 could still be floating.
In April last year debris was found on a beach 10km east of Augusta but it was from a light plane.
Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai told news agency Agence France-Presse that authorities asked counterparts in other Indian Ocean territories to look out for debris that could provide more clues to the missing aircraft.
He said Malaysia’s Department of Civil Aviation was urging authorities to let experts “conduct more substantive analysis should there be more debris coming on to land, providing us more clues to the missing aircraft”.
“I urge all parties to allow this crucial investigation process to take its course,” Mr Liow said.
“I reiterate this is for the sake of the next of kin of the loved ones of MH370 who would be anxiously awaiting news and have suffered much over this time.
“We will make an announcement once the verification process has been completed.”
On Sunday, Britain’s SkyNews reported a small aircraft door or panel was found but it turned out to be part of a ladder. But Mr Liow confirmed the flaperon found last week on Reunion Island was “officially identified” as from a Boeing 777 by the joint investigative team of Boeing, the US National Transportation Safety Board and Malaysian and French authorities.
A key identification tag that would link the flaperon to a particular aircraft was missing, so a more forensic investigation was needed.
Confirmation of which aircraft the flaperon belonged to is expected on Thursday.
Then this arvo we get this...
Quote:MH370 ‘social media hype’ hurting Malaysian Airlines’ demand
KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 4 — Media coverage of the search for missing Flight 370 is hurting ticket sales at MalaysiaAirlines, chief executive officer Christoph Mueller said.
“Particularly pronounced” coverage of the search for MH370, which is thought to have crashed in the Indian Ocean off Australia’s western coast in March 2014, “correlates unfortunately but very positively with our demand figures” in Australia, Mueller told a conference in Sydney today.
“It is fueled in most cases by social media hype.”
Last Wednesday, investigators in France will begin testing a wing part from a Boeing Co 777 — the same type as the missing plane — that was found on Reunion island, a French territory east of Africa. If the part, known as a flaperon, is confirmed to be from Flight 370, it will be the first physical remnant recovered from the aircraft.
The Paris prosecutor’s office said a suitcase discovered near the part also will be studied.
“We have been always cooperating with the investigators since day one, and so do we today,” Mueller said.
He declined to comment further on Malaysia Air’s involvement in the investigation in Paris or specify what assistance the carrier was providing.
Flight 370 was en route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur in March 2014 when it vanished without a trace with 239 people on board.
By analysing satellite signals, investigators concluded the jet turned back over the Indian Ocean.
The wreckage that washed ashore in Reunion is the strongest clue yet in a search that is now the longest ever for a missing commercial jet.
Ships using deep-sea sonar have already scanned more than 55,000 square kilometers of the seabed southwest of Australia.
Demand at Malaysia Air plunged demand last year after the disasters with Flight 370 and Flight 17, which crashed over Ukraine in July 2014 in an accident the U.S. and other countries attribute to a missile attack from pro-Russian separatists.
It’s now wholly owned by Malaysia’s sovereign wealth fund Khazanah Nasional Bhd, which took the carrier private in a RM1.38 billion buyout and has committed to invest RM6 billion to restructure the airline.
The airline will restart under a new legal identity on Sept 1, Mueller said today.
It will cut expenses to a level where the main carrier is competitive with low-cost rivals such as AirAsia Bhd, Singapore Airlines Ltd’s Scoot Pte and Tiger Airways Holdings Ltd, he said.
“We will embark as a new carrier,” he said.
It’s “a complete reset of the system”. — Bloomberg
Finally (for now) we had this...
Vive la France...
Quote:Hunt for MH370: French to Lead Initial Probe of Plane Debris
Closed-door meeting lays out procedure for handling piece of wing suspected of being part of MH370
Malaysia's Director General of Civil Aviation Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, center, arrives at a Paris courthouse on Monday. Photo: miguel medina/Agence France-Presse/Getty
Updated Aug. 3, 2015 10:28 p.m. ET
The hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 reflects the inherent complexities of a global air-accident investigation, compounded by a French criminal probe operating entirely independently of the international effort.
Long-established protocols have guided the 17-month international effort, led by Malaysian aviation authorities, but there aren’t any comparable, widely accepted rules for coordinating such work with law-enforcement agencies from various countries.
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Meeting behind closed doors Monday at a courthouse in central Paris, an antiterrorism judge laid out how France will take the lead in investigating a plane part suspected of being linked to the Malaysia Airlines Boeing BA -0.33 % 777 that disappeared more than a year ago, a judicial official said.
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But safety experts watching the process from the outside worry the French moves—including the appointment of still another independent expert—could further complicate the search. These experts said the result could muddle jurisdictional lines, and in a worst-case scenario, potentially create friction with the larger investigation.
Efforts to ascertain what happened to Flight 370 have already been hobbled at times by the multinational nature of the probe, which slowed the process and sometimes sent conflicting public messages.
From the beginning, Malaysian officials were suspicious of their U.S. counterparts from the NTSB, and gravitated toward seeking help from Australia and the U.K., according to people involved in the process.
Leaders of the countries participating in the international effort pledged to work more effectively together after a series of high-profile snafus. Those included failing to brief families of the victims before publicly announcing that the plane was believed to have crashed; designating early search areas that turned out to be far from the area now believed to contain the crash site; and erroneously linking floating debris to the missing plane.
Washed Ashore
Investigators were examining a piece of an aircraft that was found on Réunion Island but they couldn’t confirm whether it was from Flight 370, which is believed to have crashed off the southwest coast of Australia over a year ago.
France had already opened a separate criminal probe after the flight disappeared on its way to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur last year, because four French citizens were among the 239 people on board. That probe largely stayed out of the limelight until recently, when the debris found last week on Réunion Island, a French territory off the coast of Madagascar, prompted Monday’s meeting.
“The French tend to be pretty aggressive” when it comes to asserting the authority of prosecutors, said Robert Francis, a former vice chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board who has years of experience working with the French government.
Because investigators suspect the plane went down as a result of an intentional act, Flight 370 has been “far removed from an average aircraft accident,” Mr. Francis said in an interview. Therefore, he said, French law-enforcement officials “shouldn’t have a great deal of difficulty defending what they have done.”
Réunion Debris Probed for Clues in Search for MH370
A wing part and other debris has been found on the Indian Ocean island of Réunion, raising hopes that the objects may hold clues into the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 last year.
But the involvement of French judges has left other aviation experts scratching their heads, with some questioning the prosecutors’ motives.
Under the rules of the International Civil Aviation Organization—the arm of the United Nations that governs traditional airline-accident probes—the normal procedure after finding the part would have been to assemble representatives of the plane’s manufacturer and Malaysian investigators to determine next steps, according to a veteran safety expert familiar with the rules. But instead, “the French are jumping into the middle of this suddenly, with both feet,” this person said.
The NTSB said it dispatched one of its experts to France to help with the analysis of the part at a military laboratory near Toulouse, scheduled to begin Wednesday.
Boeing Co. representatives also are expected to be at the lab Wednesday, according to industry officials. The company hasn’t confirmed whether it believes the part in question came from Flight 370. But Boeing officials helped Malaysia in its initial determination, based on photographic evidence, that the part came from a Boeing 777, Malaysian officials said.
Historically, French prosecutors often don’t go public with the results of their investigation until years after air-safety experts have finished their work. The criminal probe into Air France Flight 447 is still under way more than six years after air-safety experts determined why the Airbus A330 slammed into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 people aboard.
Malaysia launched its criminal probe into Flight 370 shortly after the jet disappeared, though no formal findings have been released. The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation finished its review months after the crash. The BEA, France’s air-safety investigative agency, wasn’t a member of the international investigative team that advised Malaysia’s civil aviation officials about aspects of their overall probe and underwater search.
Monday’s meeting in Paris was attended by Malaysian law enforcement and security officials, diplomats from China and Australia, and representatives of the BEA.
For now, the French judicial official said, France’s criminal probe is legally independent of the international investigation into Flight 370. “The BEA is truly the go-between for the Malaysians and the French, because the BEA is part of the international investigation,” said a spokeswoman for the Paris prosecutor’s office after the meeting.
France’s legal system grants both the judiciary and the BEA the right to lead crash probes, said Vincent Favé, a French aircraft accident specialist. Though judges have the lead role, Mr. Favé said “it will not influence the technical work.”
Suspected MH370 debris that was found on Reunion Island arrived in France on Saturday, and was taken to a lab where it will be tested. Photo: Getty
Pending laboratory examinations, French officials have indicated it is premature to determine whether the part is from a Boeing 777, the same model as Flight 370. Yet neither Boeing nor investigators have offered a viable alternative theory about the provenance of the part, according to people familiar with the matter.
It isn’t clear what will happen once lab experts finish their work, according to one person briefed on the latest developments, but French law-enforcement officials could turn the part over to Malaysian authorities. The most important thing is to “ensure that Boeing and others who know the most about the plane” are at the center of the investigation, according to Robert MacIntosh, the former top international official at the NTSB.
Australia’s deputy prime minister said Monday the country still plans to end the hunt for the missing aircraft after the current 46,000-square-mile search zone has been covered unless the wing part found in Réunion yields hard clues that alter the current thinking on the fate of Flight 370.
—Robert Wall and Jon Ostrower contributed to this article.
Write to Matthew Dalton at Matthew.Dalton@wsj.com
Hmm....the Malaysian Director General DGCA doesn't look real happy does he--- ---
MTF...P2