The Su_Spence Saga

The Su_Spence saga continues in 2023...??Dodgy

Courtesy AOPA Oz, via Facebook:

Quote:Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association Australia was live.

ITS TIME FOR FLIGHT TRAINING REGULATION REFORM




Ian Tucker
  · 1:48

Keep up the good work Benjamin Morgan. This is a glaring problem that needs to be addressed urgently by CASA.



Sandy Reith
  · 9:37

Good work Ben, we can teach people to drive without the excruciating, costly and unnecessary stringencies of a “Part 141/142” type of bureaucratic paperwork nightmare but we qualify a Commercial Pilot to instruct but that’s not allowed!

Our present system is moronic and irresponsible to Australia particularly when considering the security aspect of a strong aviation sector, let alone the utility of GA.

I operated my own flying school for many years and it would never have existed with the current CASASTROPHIC costly regulations.

Our main policy must be to publicise the plight of GA to our Parliamentary representatives, and the media.

Expecting an independent monopoly Commonwealth corporation to administer at the lowest cost and to be mindful of the practicalities of GA and tuned in to the wishes a free enterprise GA sector, has proven to be a monumental failure since its inception in 1988.

The brainchild of the then Minister Gareth Evans, the independent regulator denies the proven Westminster principle of Ministerial responsibility for the various arms of government, which gives the most direct line of power back to us citizens and voters.

Quote:Steve Curtis
  · 0:00

ICAO guidelines only recommend training certificates (CASAs 141/142) for abbreviated CPL and Multi-crew pilot training. As far as ICAO are concerned the holder of a flight instructor rating are capable of training pilots without being associated with a flying school. The quality control on training increases under this system, CASA would randomly allocate an examiner for flight tests. This stops the in-house testing systems in place now where instructors know what their examiner likes.

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Quote:Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association Australia was live.

UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, CASA MUST STOP FIDDLING WITH THE REGULATIONS




Dave Berenholtz
  · 0:02

If Ben is wrong in these videos on so many issues, l would like to hear from CASA as to where he is mistaken. That is surely reasonable?

Where is the oversight? Does anyone check the regulator or does the buck stop within that organization?

Many other government departments have ombudsman or places for appeals, places of checks and balances.

Surely it is reasonable where there are so many contentious issues to have an independent umpire?

I commend many of the people in CASA who do good work. I am however saddened by some of the decisions and policies of that same organization.

Meanwhile, GA is dying the death of a thousand cuts.

Quote:Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association Australia
  · 0:00

Dave Berenholtz thank you for the comment and I am in full agreement with your sentiment. CASA should be responding to these issues and going on the record as to why they continue to refuse to reform. Their inaction or refusal to change is damaging our industry badly, and they appear utterly uninterested in justifying or explaining themselves. After so many years of heading in the direction we have with the negative outcomes it has delivered, why is CASA so determined to refuse all efforts to reform these regulations? Why is adopting the regulatory stance of the worlds most successful regulator such an affront to CASA?

Thank you again David. BENJAMIN MORGAN

Plus via the AP email chains:

Quote:On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 10:19 Manning, Lauren (D. Tehan, MP) <Lauren.Manning@aph.gov.au> wrote:

    Good Morning Sandy,   

    Thank you for your email, and wishing you a very Happy New Year!   

    Do you know why the Rockhampton Aero Club has ceased training?   

    With kind regards,   

    Lauren 

    Lauren Manning
    Electorate Officer

Sandy reply:

Quote:Hello Lauren,

Reading from the Club’s statement (link provided) the immediate problem seems to be the inability to find a qualified instructor.

In a wider context, in exactly the manner that so many of us have predicted for years, the extreme paperwork requirements and unnecessary permissions to which are attached swingeing fees, have resulted in literally hundreds of flying schools being shut this last twenty years.

The case of senior instructor Janelle Wite trying to revive the once busy Warrnambool flying school, some five or six years ago, bears revisiting. In her case, she was forced to pay $8000 up front with her application merely to have CASA consider starting their bureaucratic process towards granting a flying school licence (Air Operators Certificate). This process would have cost many more thousands of dollars. After a couple of years she gave up.

Then you may consider the case of Glen Buckley whose concept of an umbrella organisation for the smaller flying schools to cope with CASA’s extraordinary and convoluted administrative machinations. Glen negotiated with CASA and received operating consent, a very costly and drawn out procedure, only for CASA to declare his business inoperable a short time after his successful business model was proving itself.

In the USA an instructor needs none of the above to teach flying. 

Glen Buckley’s disgraceful, unjust and irresponsible treatment is ongoing, internet search if you will.

Administration of aviation by a monopoly corporation, a Labor initiative, Minister Gareth Evans 1988, is a colossal failure and denial of the Westminster principle of Ministerial responsibility.

Yes Happy New Year, but that cannot apply to General Aviation. Paul Lamont developing Cressy Airport is being told he can only have ten takeoffs and landings per day. Such is free enterprise in the State of Bureaucratalia.

Regards,        Sandy

MTF...P2  Tongue
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The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-01-2021, 10:16 AM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 07-23-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-24-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 07-24-2021, 05:21 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 07-25-2021, 12:23 PM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-31-2021, 11:01 AM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 09-30-2021, 10:23 PM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 12-22-2021, 03:22 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 12-22-2021, 06:14 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 12-22-2021, 10:31 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 12-27-2021, 06:35 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 12-28-2021, 07:04 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 12-29-2021, 01:21 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 02-03-2022, 06:42 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-03-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 02-04-2022, 03:21 AM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 05-16-2022, 09:26 AM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 05-28-2023, 04:19 PM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 10-07-2023, 09:58 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 10-27-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-04-2023, 07:39 PM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Earl Lank - 11-09-2023, 07:28 PM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 01-07-2024, 08:24 AM
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RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Earl Lank - 01-16-2024, 08:34 AM
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