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CASA/AVMAD evidence of duplicity hypocrisy in process? - Part II

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CASA/AVMAD evidence of duplicity in process?? - 

Keeping in mind the above posts, in regards to (again) the 'Empire Strikes back on CVD Pilots', please witness the following evidence provided by Su_Spence and Co in relation to medical side effect issues with the COVID-19 vaccinations and professional high capacity RPT pilots:   

Budget Estimates - CASA & ASA but no AMSA (yet)? 

Via the APH (from 08:25):

Now consider this Youtube video segment off last night's Rowan Dean Sky News Australia episode (from 31:10)...

Then go to this referred to website: https://www.aussiefreedomflyers.com/

And these videos: https://rumble.com/v13bo0k-hoodys-heroes...n-pt1.html (PMO Kate Manderson fm 22:50) & https://rumble.com/v13krdl-hoodys-heroes...-of-2.html

Former Qantas Captain, Graham Hood, in an investigative discussion and critique of Dr. Kate Manderson's (head of CASA medical) opinion of the risk posed to Airline Pilots from the Covid-19 vaccinations.

Video recorded 30th April 2022. The circumstances leading to the recording of this video were the increasing volume of reports pointing to serious side effects in vaccinated individuals.

Side effects of concern were those that posed a Risk-to-Flight should they happen to a pilot of an airliner. It became abundantly clear that the airlines and the regulators were not motivated to screen pilots for issues that they may be experiencing. The consequences of an over zealous vaccine program, that has gone wrong, has the potential to ground airlines around the globe.

Pilots were reluctant to come forward for fear of losing their medical clearance to fly, with the added potential to loose their entire career and income.

In the interests of Passenger safety we ask the tough questions the regulator should be asking.

In summary. The doctors and flight surgeons in this interview recommend all vaccinated pilots, at a minimum should order:
1 Cardiac MRI
2 D Dimer test
3 Troponin level test
4 Cardiac Stress ECG
With follow ups at three month intervals.

Follow AussieFreedomFlyers.com and Graham Hood on Facebook

Hmm...nothing to see here right?? 

Hansard, via APH:

CHAIR: Senator Roberts?

Senator ROBERTS: Thank you for appearing here today. Is it CASA that is responsible for aeromedical safety for pilots in Australia?

Ms Spence : Yes.

S enator ROBERTS: Can you tell me a bit more about the responsibility?

Ms Spence : I might invite my colleague who looks after the avmed area within CASA to provide you a bit more information about how we operate in that space.

Senator ROBERTS: Which area was that?

Ms Spence : It's the Stakeholder Engagement Division, but he's responsible for the aviation medicine team within CASA.

Senator ROBERTS: Mr Marcelja, what are your responsibilities?

Mr Marcelja : I look after the area that runs our medical certification area.

Senator ROBERTS: Certification of pilots?

Mr Marcelja : For aviation medicine, yes. We run a certification process where anyone that wants to be granted a pilot licence needs to meet a medical standard. Depending on the level of licence they would like to hold, there are different medical standards they can apply for. Some of those range from being granted, effectively, by a GP all the way up to CASA doing robust assessments.

Senator ROBERTS: Second question: did the airlines have to consult CASA at all before implementing vaccine mandates?

Mr Marcelja : They would not have, no. The vaccine mandates were a matter for health agencies, not us.

Senator ROBERTS: But CASA is responsible for aeromedical safety, and airlines were mandating a medical procedure—mandating.

Mr Marcelja : Our policy when it comes to vaccination, from an aviation safety perspective, is fairly straightforward. We have a 24-hour standdown period—we request that crews don't operate for 24 hours—and that accounts for any adverse reactions that might happen on any vaccination. Beyond that, our requirement is that, if there are effects being experienced, pilots declare that either to us or to their medical examiner and stand down from duties. It's a pretty standard process we have for vaccinations.

Senator ROBERTS: So you would expect the effects to be over within 24 hours?

Mr Marcelja : The immediate effects. Our concern is around incapacitation—is there a risk of sudden incapacitation for a pilot? The medical evidence suggests that that takes place in the first 24 hours following the vaccine.

Senator ROBERTS: Where did the evidence come from?

Mr Marcelja : That's a globally accepted standard. All aviation regulators—

Senator ROBERTS: So you didn't check where the evidence came from; you just accepted the globally accepted—

Ms Spence : As Mr Marcelja said, this is for all vaccinations, and that is a longstanding practice that has been in place around that 24 hours. What we're talking about is our general processes.

Senator ROBERTS: So there is nothing exceptional about the way COVID injections are treated?

Ms Spence : No.

Senator ROBERTS: Is CASA aware that the COVID injections only hold provisional approval?

Mr Marcelja : We take the advice from the health authorities that have approved those vaccinations for use in Australia, and, as far as we're concerned, we don't question that. We don't second-guess that. That's a—

Senator ROBERTS: I wasn't asking that question, Mr Marcelja. I was asking if you're aware that the COVID injections only have provisional approval, not approval.

Mr Marcelja : We are aware that the vaccines are approved for use in Australia, and that's what matters to us.

Senator ROBERTS: Provisionally approved. You're not aware that they were provisionally approved?

Mr Marcelja : I am aware that they are provisionally approved—

Senator ROBERTS: Thank you. Are you aware that the provisional approval means the health regulators only have preliminary data on the medication and are awaiting the full suite of data from pharmaceutical companies from further monitoring, which could include risks and harms not identified in preliminary data? Are you aware of that?

Mr Marcelja : As I said, from our perspective, they have been approved by health authorities for use in Australia. That's the extent of our concern.

Senator ROBERTS: Given what I just said and the uncertainty there, is there a possibility that vaccine mandates inject a level of risk onto pilots flying planes? Is there a level of uncertainty introduced?

Ms Spence : As Mr Marcelja said, we're following the medical advice, and we have not got any reason to have concerns around the impact of COVID vaccinations in Australia.

Senator ROBERTS: Who gave you the medical advice?

Ms Spence : We're following the announced advice that comes from the—

Senator ROBER TS: Who gave you that announced medical advice?

Ms Spence : We're following the advice that's provided across the country. We hear what the CMOs are saying—

Senator ROBERTS: Is it the Chief Medical Officer, AHPRA, the secretary of the federal—

Ms S pence : We're following the published advice.

Senator ROBERTS: Who published it?

Ms Spence : I'm sorry, I don't know who—

Senator ROBERTS: You didn't check?

Ms Spence : We're following the advice that's out there, and we're treating the COVID vaccinations the same way we do with every other vaccination in the country.

Senator ROBERTS: Thank you for acknowledging that. Does CASA collect reports of COVID-19 vaccine effects, side effects and adverse events in class 1 to 3 medical certificate holders, and how is this data collected?

Mr Marcelja : Medical certificate holders are required to see their medical examiners on a regular basis. We do expect them to disclose effects if they've had them. We have nothing in any of the data we hold that indicates any adverse effects from COVID vaccination.

Senator ROBERTS: You have nothing in the data, but you don't go and specifically collect it.

Ms Spence : Yes, we do. It is required to be provided to us, but nothing has been provided to us.

Senator ROBERTS: Whom do you require to provide it?

Ms Spence : The pilots.

Senator ROBERTS: Do you believe there may be a perverse incentive for a pilot to not report if they have suffered an adverse event? If they report an event, they are putting their financial livelihood at risk.

Ms Spence : No, Senator.

Senator ROBERTS: You don't?

Ms Spence : No, Senator.

Senator ROBERTS: How does CASA detect pilots who may have a medical problem if they have not self-reported it to CASA?

Mr Marcelja : As I said earlier, medical certificate holders are required to see an examiner on a frequent basis. It depends on their age. It depends on the class of medical. In order to hold a medical certificate for most classes of medicals you need to see a medical examiner on a frequent basis, so other than self-declaration that's the other control that we have in our medical system.

CHAIR: We're very tight for time, we've got three other agencies and a lot of us have got questions. Frankly, this is bullshit.

Senator ROBERTS: Thanks for the endorsement. That means a lot. Are you aware that the COVID injections were not fully tested and barely partially tested? Are you aware; yes or no?

Mr Marcelja : Senator, it's not a matter for us. We are an aviation safety agency, and we take the advice, when it comes to vaccination, from the authorities that are charged with making those decisions.

Senator ROBERTS: Are you aware—I haven't checked this myself, but I'm told by a lawyer in America—that 1,000 Southwest Airlines pilots cannot pass their medical after being injected? That's a hell of a lot of pilots in America just with one airline.

Ms Spence : We haven't had that data provided to us.

Senator ROBERTS: Are you aware that the Pfizer trials were sloppy, unscientific and shut down early, apparently due to deaths? Are you aware?

Ms Spence : Senator, I don't think there's anything else that we can really add to the line of questioning.

CHAIR: Senator Roberts, much as I enjoy working with you, I really think the officers cannot answer your line of questioning here.

Senator ROBERTS: No, that has become clear.

CHAIR: And I would please urge, Senator Roberts, as we are so tight for time, that if there are any more, would you put them on notice?

Senator ROBERTS: I will hand back, Chair.

  
Hmm...yet when it comes to private pilots self-certifying under a drivers license medical standard; or a private pilot diagnosed with CVD looking to be certified under a operational test scenario, the medical boffins in AVMAD and the medically biased Part 67 TWG simply ignore the factual evidence provided by international counterparts and the overwhelming evidence of incident free flying of the professional fraternity of CVD pilots - the hypocrisy here is UFB!

MTF...P2