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FAR AIM vs CASR etc..etc - 

Sandy via the UP... :US

App? Or simplified rules with index?


US:- $14.95 book with index. Start immediately with ins. rating.
Australia:- CASASTROPHE edited library $thousands in fees during negotiations for a Part 141/142 permit which might take months or years, maybe permissible eventually or not. One local senior instructor was required to put up $8000 to CASA just to commence the flying school permit process, but gave up after a couple of years.

The ‘US’ comment refers to the ability of an instructor to teach without having a Part 141/142 approved organisation. According to John King (John & Martha King Aviation, USA, and one time advisor to CASA) some 70% of USA pilots are trained outside of the 141/142 regime.

The Airman’s Information Manual (AIM) has an index.

I’m informed that that publication covers virtually all areas of regular flying ops., including training. Cost has increased to $15.99 last time I looked.

In terms of hope for reform there is none until the Minister takes charge. Prior to disbanding CASA and administering aviation through a Department of Government, the system of responsible and accountable government in the proven Westminster manner, he could issue a new detailed Statement of Expectations.

Evidence that the current administration is not salvageable, if not seen already, have a look at the video of the last RRAT Senate Committee hearing, the segment with Majorie Pagani of Angel Flight (AF) confronting CASA. You could conclude that CEO Pip Spence, one, had not been briefed, two, had not done her homework, three, J. Aleck is the de-facto CEO,

In regard to AF’s court case against CASA, and CASA’s RRAT evidence in session, of a safety case justification (nil) for new restrictions on AF (via Mr. Monahan), I don’t think you’d ever see more convincing and compelling reason to disband this completely dysfunctional entity. And thus commence regulatory reform.

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Pinky the pilot

The following is a copy of a post I have made elsewhere, twice I think, but with respect I feel that it is worth putting up yet again.

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I made the following quoted post in another thread back on 30th September and I feel it is worth quoting here;
finestkind posted
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One of these was whilst training a chap who happened to be a Barrister ( with obviously too many spare neurons) and going through CAO, CAA and the ABC’s said Barrister made the comment “I can hardly decipher this sh*T. Quote

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Precisely! A Lawyer aquaintance of mine once had a need to go through the old ANO and ANR documents (quite some years ago, obviously) and he made the observation that 'You need to have a legal background to even begin to understand some of this sh*t...'

He also pointed out several direct contradictions in the ANR's.

His parting comment was that they were obviously written by a Lawyer who specialised in legalese and pettifoggery!

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Sandy Reith

Legal opinions

Pinky, well worth a repeat which reminds me of another lawyer’s (also pilot and a/c owner) opinion of the ever more all encompassing criminal code offences as invented by CASA.

Namely that practically anything of any real seriousness would be covered by common law irrespective of CASA’s dictats.

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Pinky the pilot

practically anything of any real seriousness would be covered by common law irrespective of CASA’s dictats.

Aha!! Now, if perchance a situation ever arose where pertaining to an 'incident,' there appreared a conflict between common law and CASA's view, I wonder which will prevail?

I think I already know the answer; Common Law would prevail, but I have a grave suspicion that it wouldn't stop CASA trying to see that it didn't! And wasting huge amounts of Taxpayers money in doing so!

Cynical, who....me???

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Arm out the window

I'm convinced you're spot on. The big and obvious problem is that it's not aviation reality being considered when these regs are drafted and made into law, it's a few people's idea of what 'should' be done, which in many instances is far from what's right and proper in any common sense world.

These people in my opinion are the at root of everything that's wrong with CASA now, and Sandy's photos of FAR vs CASR and the associated piles of waffle eloquently tell the story. Get angry, aviation community, and go direct to the DAS, CASA board director, ministers, senators and anyone else who you think can be of influence. This is bullshit, and should never have gotten to its current state of shambolic ridiculousness.

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Sandy Reith

How to win friends and influence people

Arm Out is correct what has happened is just plain wrong, but it is Parliament that is responsible. Therefore with respect going directly to CASA and it’s Board might help at the margins in the short term but nothing more because the administrative model is wrong. The idea of administering by an independent Commonwealth corporate with monopoly power is like leaving everything to one’s auto pilot with the wrong coordinates entered. Mount Erebus.

I’d like to make the case for most of our effort being engagement with MPs and the media because only by action in the Parliament can we hope to achieve substantive reform.

In the hurley burly of politics, and a never ending myriad of issues competing for the attention of law makers, only perseverance and real effort can hope to cause change. Griping and gnashing of teeth that we are all prone to (outlets for frustration) is easy but does have an important role. That is by collectively thinking through the problems we are more likely to be unified in our approach to government and with more logical solutions.

Then the hard yakka is making appointments or other means e.g. attending or organising meetings, with purpose to engage with your federal MP and State Senators and media people. Having printed material to give them. All too often slinging off at politicians is an excuse not to follow up with the work of making best use of our elected representatives.

MTF...P2