The Su_Spence Saga
#37

Ms Spence, with respect:

"I have made it clear to everyone in CASA that a key part of our job is engagement and listening.  We must have effective and productive working relationships with people and organisations across all sectors of Australian aviation so that we engage on issues in a timely and meaningful way."

The industry has been attempting to communicate with CAsA for the past thirty years. Simply put you can never, never argue a point with anyone in CAsA without risking being put on their shit list, which can have very dire consequences.

History has shown CAsA is NEVER timely and NEVER meaningful, that is ongoing. Just ask certain companies attempting to comply with your new Part 121 insanity. I would point out that charter is NOT RPT. Endeavouring to make it operate as RPT will ultimately diminish it's viability as the added cost that will have to be recovered.

As an American client once said "I don't want to buy the aircraft, just rent it for a day".

"CASA needs to know about the challenges being faced by the aviation community and be made aware of emerging and evolving safety risks."

The risk to an ailing industry is CAsA itself.

"CASA already engages widely with the aviation community and my emphasis is intended to build and improve on these existing formal and informal communications."

No it doesn't. It is a fact that vast knowledge and experience lies within the industry itself, not with CAsA.

CAsA does not engage, it dictates and talks down to.

"My intention is not to create a whole new way of operating,"

We already are forced to operate in a whole new way because your wonderful world leading regulation requires us to operate completely out of step with the rest of the world.

"Pilots told us they want to hear more safety related information and advice from CASA that is clear, approachable and authoritative."

The safety advice is certainly authoritative, that is "Do as your told" and about as useful as tits on a bull.Take a tour of the FAA website if you want examples of useful advice, which is never authoritative or condescending.

"To coincide with the new flight operations regulations there will be an update to the Visual Flight Rules Guide to provide another way of getting easy to understand information about regulatory requirements."

If you wrote the regulations properly in the first place would be far more help. If you want an example of proper regulations, I can send you a copy of AIM, or you can examine New Zealand online.
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The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-01-2021, 10:16 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-01-2021, 10:22 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-03-2021, 11:32 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 06-04-2021, 07:04 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 06-07-2021, 06:59 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 06-08-2021, 01:28 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-22-2021, 09:51 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by P7_TOM - 06-30-2021, 07:28 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-21-2021, 10:17 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 07-22-2021, 08:02 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 07-22-2021, 08:54 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 07-22-2021, 09:44 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-22-2021, 10:43 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 07-23-2021, 01:18 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 07-23-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-24-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 07-24-2021, 05:21 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 07-25-2021, 12:23 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 07-27-2021, 11:57 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-31-2021, 11:01 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 08-01-2021, 06:24 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-01-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 08-01-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 08-01-2021, 07:09 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 08-02-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 08-02-2021, 09:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-19-2021, 08:52 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 08-19-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 08-20-2021, 12:25 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 08-20-2021, 06:58 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 08-20-2021, 09:16 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 08-25-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Cap'n Wannabe - 08-27-2021, 01:03 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 08-27-2021, 02:59 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 08-27-2021, 11:12 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-28-2021, 07:36 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 08-31-2021, 07:05 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 08-31-2021, 09:37 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 09-04-2021, 08:25 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-10-2021, 05:25 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-26-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Cap'n Wannabe - 09-29-2021, 11:15 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 09-29-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 09-30-2021, 10:23 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 10-05-2021, 06:59 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 10-06-2021, 01:08 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Plane Fixer - 10-06-2021, 05:31 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 10-06-2021, 07:07 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 10-07-2021, 01:09 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 10-16-2021, 10:15 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 10-16-2021, 02:46 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-03-2021, 09:41 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 11-03-2021, 04:43 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-05-2021, 09:25 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-13-2021, 08:29 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 11-21-2021, 10:29 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 12-20-2021, 12:39 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 12-22-2021, 10:18 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 12-22-2021, 12:17 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 12-22-2021, 03:22 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 12-22-2021, 06:14 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 12-22-2021, 10:31 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 12-27-2021, 06:35 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 12-28-2021, 07:04 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 12-29-2021, 01:21 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 02-03-2022, 06:42 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-03-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 02-04-2022, 03:21 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 02-04-2022, 07:33 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by P7_TOM - 02-04-2022, 04:23 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 02-16-2022, 07:20 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 02-16-2022, 07:18 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-17-2022, 06:49 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-04-2022, 12:59 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-05-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-05-2022, 09:46 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 03-06-2022, 07:02 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 03-07-2022, 07:27 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-03-2022, 11:46 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 05-03-2022, 02:35 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 05-04-2022, 07:57 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 05-04-2022, 07:59 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-04-2022, 10:18 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-14-2022, 10:25 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-15-2022, 10:47 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by thorn bird - 05-16-2022, 07:11 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 05-16-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 05-20-2022, 07:41 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-20-2022, 09:57 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 05-20-2022, 10:20 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 05-21-2022, 07:08 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 05-21-2022, 10:36 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-22-2022, 12:14 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 05-25-2022, 08:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 05-25-2022, 09:13 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-03-2022, 09:50 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-11-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 06-13-2022, 10:53 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-16-2022, 09:35 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-07-2022, 08:45 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 07-07-2022, 09:36 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-04-2022, 09:07 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-18-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-03-2022, 12:10 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by P7_TOM - 09-09-2022, 04:51 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-30-2022, 06:17 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 10-05-2022, 09:55 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 10-14-2022, 08:38 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-02-2022, 06:20 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 11-02-2022, 09:56 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 11-02-2022, 10:25 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 11-07-2022, 06:43 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-11-2022, 06:40 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 11-13-2022, 04:40 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 11-14-2022, 10:29 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by P7_TOM - 11-14-2022, 04:20 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-20-2022, 08:48 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 12-09-2022, 07:34 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 12-22-2022, 07:08 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 12-23-2022, 02:58 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 01-12-2023, 07:30 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-07-2023, 09:27 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-16-2023, 07:19 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-17-2023, 09:01 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 02-18-2023, 02:12 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-06-2023, 10:09 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 03-06-2023, 04:06 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 03-08-2023, 06:15 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-17-2023, 07:25 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 04-01-2023, 10:57 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 04-06-2023, 09:14 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 04-27-2023, 06:59 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-04-2023, 07:59 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 05-05-2023, 12:02 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 05-05-2023, 12:26 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-18-2023, 10:11 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-28-2023, 10:00 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 05-28-2023, 04:19 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-02-2023, 09:40 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-08-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-13-2023, 08:49 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-16-2023, 09:50 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-14-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 07-15-2023, 05:31 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-06-2023, 10:11 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-25-2023, 06:04 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Cap'n Wannabe - 08-25-2023, 07:20 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-31-2023, 10:01 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-04-2023, 08:57 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 10-07-2023, 05:29 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 10-07-2023, 09:58 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 10-27-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-04-2023, 07:39 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-09-2023, 06:14 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Earl Lank - 11-09-2023, 07:28 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-19-2023, 10:02 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-20-2023, 03:46 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-24-2023, 06:17 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-26-2023, 10:35 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 11-27-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 12-07-2023, 08:30 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by P7_TOM - 12-08-2023, 04:48 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 12-19-2023, 08:28 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 12-22-2023, 08:38 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 01-06-2024, 10:08 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Wombat - 01-06-2024, 08:31 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 01-07-2024, 08:24 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 01-15-2024, 08:15 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Earl Lank - 01-16-2024, 08:34 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 01-16-2024, 02:04 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 01-19-2024, 09:20 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-03-2024, 08:25 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 02-03-2024, 11:33 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 02-06-2024, 05:47 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-07-2024, 09:45 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-09-2024, 05:22 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-20-2024, 08:41 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 02-23-2024, 08:05 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-08-2024, 09:37 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 03-09-2024, 07:09 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-24-2024, 09:33 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-24-2024, 04:42 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-01-2024, 09:09 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 05-25-2024, 09:06 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 06-07-2024, 06:30 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-08-2024, 09:47 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Sandy Reith - 07-09-2024, 10:13 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-15-2024, 09:05 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 07-26-2024, 04:26 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-18-2024, 10:16 AM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 08-19-2024, 05:46 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-22-2024, 08:33 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Kharon - 08-23-2024, 06:29 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 08-27-2024, 08:55 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-04-2024, 08:16 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 09-12-2024, 08:21 PM
RE: The Su_Spence Saga - by Peetwo - 11-11-2024, 09:38 PM
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