Australia, ATSB and MH 370

Michael John says:
November 19, 2024 at 4:41 pm

Based on an estimated cruise speed of 683 mph & assuming Mh370 was flying in a straight line then my estimated location at 19.41pm is around 3°13’51″S 92°53’58″E

What’s everyone else estimating?

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ventus45 says:
November 19, 2024 at 9:16 pm

@Michael John

Ah ha, the vexed question of the 19:41:00 intercept raises it’s ugly head yet again.

As a general comment, I would say at the outset, that the unresolved problem of the ASTB/DSTG’s “geographic inconsistency” with the 19:41 arc intercept, is most likely a direct by-product of the “unverified and unverifiable Malaysian Military Radar Data” (which by necessity produces the FMT north of Ache) and that is, in my frank opinion, the root cause of our inability to find MH370. But more importantly, this unverifiable radar data has produced a location that also causes significant difficulties interpreting the First Arc log on BFO’s. As we all know, many theories have been examined over the years, for example, the crystal oscillator oven warm up effects, the proposed ‘right offset of 15Nm from N571’ for possible traffic avoidance, and even the more recent Air France Captain’s scenario. None of them have produced a definitive outcome. More to follow on this matter, see below.

I take a purely practical approach to solving MH370, as a pilot, as a navigator, but more particularly, as a mission planned. We have to accept that MH370 was the Captain’s last flight, that he knew it was going to be his last flight, that he had been preparing for it for a long time, many months in fact, and that he had planned it in meticulous detail, with nothing left to chance.

The official Malaysian government narrative is the direct opposite of all of that. Furthermore, as I have explained before, I do not accept ‘the Lido Slide’ as being the true path of MH370, certainly not past Pulau Perak Island anyway.

My track to the 2nd (19:41:00utc) arc is based on my theory that MH370 DID NOT proceed all the way up the Malacca Strait, but rather, made a LEFT turn off the Vampi Track just South-East of Pulau Perak Island, in other words, just after the end of the civil radar data. (I totally dismiss the remainder of the radar data, the so-called military radar data to Vampi and beyond, as unverifiable)

Why I believe Zahari had to cross Ache can be simplified down to one thing, fuel. I have explained it all in detail in other places before, but the essential point is that his original plan had been made off a flight where he had significantly more fuel than MH370 had. He absolutely had to “cut his track miles” to get to his planned destination, so he had to “escape to the northern Indian Ocean” much earlier than his original plan. Therefore, he could not go up to the north of Ache, he had to cut across southern Ache.

My route from the end of the civil radar data is as follows: (generated from Barry Martin’s spreadsheet).

(a) Turn left just SE of Pulau Perak Island (from heading 288T to 240T) towards waypoint TASEK
(b) Thence (to OVERFLY ACHE) – Track DCT waypoint IVRAR (formerly Nagan – just north abeam of WITC)
© Within 10Nm of reaching IVRAR – Repower All Electrical Systems
(d) Go “Feet Wet” (cross the coast – out into the ocean – never to see land again)
(e) Thence track DCT waypoint MABIX
(f) Thence – Cross the 1st arc – continue
(g) Thence – (within 5Nm of waypoint MABIX) commence the FMT
(h) Complete the FMT at 18:39:30 at (94.7030 East / 3.0680 North) at FL400, Heading 192.8963 degrees True, GS 467.52kn
(i) 1st Satcall (do not answer) at 18:40:00 at (94.6891 East / 3.0046 North) at FL400, Heading 191.8956 degrees True, GS 467.28kn
(j) At 19:01:30utc pass 27.252Nm East ABEAM of waypoint ISBIX (closest approach to ISBIX) (94.1188 East / 0.2782 North) at FL400, GS 467.2kn
(k) Cross Equator (19:03:45utc) at (94.0591 East / 0.0078 South) at FL400, Heading 191.8791 degrees True, GS 467.71kn
(l) Cross 2nd arc (19:41:00utc) at (93.0666 East / 4.7467 South) at FL400, Heading 191.9203 degrees True, GS 467.71kn

In other words, my 19:41:00 latitude is 4.7467 SOUTH, which is way further south than most other people’s calculated latitude [and I cross the 7th arc (00:19:30utc) at (86.2442 East / 39.226 South)].

To return to the beginning (knowing that most will dismiss what follows, but, tin hat on).

My suggestion is that we should concentrate our attention on resolving ‘the elephant in the room’, the ASTB/DSTG’s “geographic inconsistency”, something that the ATSB seemed quite happy to just leave ‘swinging in the breeze’, with apparently no real attempt having been made to ever resolve it.

It has to be resolved, and to that end, I propose that ‘the number crunching experts’ should re-examine the circa 18:25utc log on BFO’s, but, this time, on the assumption that they occurred in a different geographic location to that currently accepted, specifically, my location, near WITC.

To begin, it is readily apparent by simple inspection alone, that one thing is very obvious.

The line of sight to the Inmarsat Satellite from Sanob is about 260 degrees true, and from WITC it is about 264 degrees true.
At Sanob, the aircraft is generally considered to be heading about 290 degrees true, but at WITC, my heading is 240 degrees true.

This produces an obvious and significant difference in the aircraft’s relative heading to the satellite for the two locations.

Up near Sanob, the aircraft heading (290 – 260) is about 30 degrees TO THE RIGHT of the line of site to the satellite.
Down near WITC, the aircraft heading (264 – 240) is about 24 degrees TO THE LEFT of the line of site to the satellite.

I have a ‘gut feeling’ that this difference in relative headings is significant, and that it could be ‘the smoking gun’ that we need to solve ‘the riddle of the circa 18:25 Log-On BFO’s, and the whole case.

Number crunchers, on your marks, get set, GO.
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MH370 new search update?? - Rolleyes

Via Vietnamese 24H:

Quote:New proposal to find MH370: "Success within reach"
Event: Malaysia Airlines MH370 mysterious disappearance Malaysia News

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In a statement to British television channel GB News, Ocean Infinity - a US-based salvage company that unsuccessfully tracked MH370 - said it had "improved its understanding of the likely location of MH370".

“Since departing the southern Indian Ocean in 2018, we have remained steadfast in our commitment to finding missing MH370 and bringing comfort to those affected,” said Oliver Plunkett, CEO of Ocean Infinity.

“In recent years, we have focused on improving our ocean search capabilities through innovative technology and robotics, enabling us to conduct the most complex underwater searches,” added Plunkett.

"In addition to our ongoing efforts, we have submitted a proposal to the Malaysian government and are actively discussing the possibility of continuing the search. By working with a wide range of experts, including those outside Ocean Infinity, and conducting ongoing analysis, we have improved our understanding of the likely location of MH370," said the CEO of Ocean Infinity.

“We are optimistic that with renewed focus, increased resources, and active cooperation with the Malaysian authorities, a successful outcome is within reach. We look forward to the opportunity to continue our search and efforts to find answers,” added Mr. Plunkett.

Last month, Malaysian Transport Minister Anthony Loke confirmed that the government was in advanced discussions with Ocean Infinity on a “credible” proposal to explore a new area in the southern Indian Ocean.

 "Based on the latest information and analysis from experts, Ocean Infinity's search proposal is credible and can be considered by the Malaysian government," Malaysia's transport minister said.

Mr Loke added that the terms are being negotiated and need cabinet approval before implementation.

In June 2024, Ocean Infinity submitted a new search proposal to the Malaysian government, proposing to search an area of 15,000 square kilometers off the coast of Western Australia.

Ocean Infinity proposed a “no find, no fee” deal, with a success fee of $70 million — similar to previous search terms.

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 , carrying 239 people, disappeared about 38 minutes after taking off from Kuala Lumpur airport, southern Malaysia, on March 8, 2014.

Afterwards, the governments of several countries involved and private companies conducted many searches, but the plane has not been found yet.

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MH370 new search update: 21/12/24

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Malaysia to resume search for missing flight MH370 a decade after disappearance


Chris Price Fri, 20 December 2024 at 8:46 pm GMT+11·3-min read


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Searches coordinated between the Australian, Malaysian and Chinese defence forces previously failed to find the wreck - LSIS Bradley Darvill/Australian Defence/AFP via Getty Images

Malaysia has agreed to resume the search for the wreckage of missing Flight MH370 after a new analysis of data in one of the world’s greatest aviation mysteries.

The country has struck a “no find, no fee” deal with Ocean Infinity, a US-British exploration company which also conducted the last search for the plane that ended in 2018, after it sought to narrow down the area where the missing plane might be.

The Malaysia Airlines flight vanished on its journey from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8 2014.

Debris, some confirmed and some believed to be from the aircraft, has washed up along the coast of Africa and on islands in the Indian Ocean in the subsequent years. However, no one has ever been able to establish what happened to the Boeing 777, which was carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew.


Anthony Loke, Malaysia’s transport minister, said the search was resuming in an effort to “give closure to the families”.

He said: “Our responsibility and obligation and commitment is to the next of kin.

“We hope this time will be positive, that the wreckage will be found and give closure to the families.”

Ocean Infinity will sweep an area in the southern Indian Ocean that has yet to be covered in the search.



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MH370 flight disappeared over the Indian ocean while carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew - NAZRI MOHAMAD/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock

The ocean, the third-largest in the world, accounts for about 20pc of the water area on Earth’s surface.

Mr Loke told a press conference that Ocean Infinity will receive $70m (£56m) if it finds substantive wreckage.

Ocean Infinity, which has offices in Southampton and Austin, Texas, submitted a search proposal to Malaysia earlier this year.

At the time, Oliver Plunkett, the chief executive, said: “This search is arguably the most challenging, and indeed the most pertinent one out there.


“We’ve been working with many experts, some outside of Ocean Infinity, to continue analysing the data in the hopes of narrowing the search area down to one in which success becomes potentially achievable.”

Malaysian investigators initially did not rule out the possibility that the aircraft had been deliberately taken off course.
More than 150 Chinese passengers were on the flight, with relatives demanding compensation from Malaysia Airlines, Boeing, aircraft engine maker Rolls-Royce and the Allianz insurance group among others.

Kuala Lumpur’s air traffic control received a final message from the cockpit of the plane 39 minutes into the flight, just as the aircraft was about to leave Malaysian airspace above the South China Sea.

Within seconds of entering Vietnamese airspace, flight MH370 disappeared off the radar. No distress call was made.


In the absence of the fuselage and the black box, the exact details of the final hours of MH370 remain unknown, leaving huge gaps in understanding of who caused its disappearance, and how.

Ocean Infinity failed on two attempts in 2018 to find the wreckage in the southern Indian Ocean.

That followed an underwater search by Malaysia, Australia and China in a 120,000 sq km (46,332 sq mile) area, based on the last satellite data captured from the plane.


Plus via YouTube:





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Is Malaysia pulling out of the search for MH370? That is the question now being asked by UK aerospace Engineer Richard Godfrey who has a new location for the missing Boeing 777.

On his website Mr Godfrey has posted a new blog that says that the “expected new search for MH370 by Ocean Infinity will not be taking place after all.

Read the full story here:
https://42kft.com/new-mh370-search-explo...a-dithers/
See more on WSPR technology here:   [Image: yt_favicon_ringo2.png] • Exclusive interview with Richard Godfrey  
MH370 Debris explained here:   [Image: yt_favicon_ringo2.png] • Key MH370 Debris Explained By Wreck H...  


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BLOG - What Happened to MALAYSIAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 370?

Courtesy Afterburn Podcast Episodes, via YouTube:


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MH370 search back on again?? - Rolleyes

Note the difference in interpretation of the latest news that the 2nd Ocean Infinity search maybe??? back on again... Shy

First from our resident, NFI self-appointed expert on all things aviation, GT:


Next from the always controversial Jeff Wise:


Finally via SkyNews Oz, Byron Bailey chucks in his 2 bobs worth on the Malaysian stalling of the search (apparently he wasn't privy to the latest OI ship deployment??):


Popcorn on standby... Big Grin

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