[Kharon]

Sodd's Law of the Ocean: hereby invoked.

“Sodd's law is a more extreme version of Murphy's law. While Murphy's law says that anything that can go wrong, will go wrong (eventually), Sod's law requires that it will always go wrong with the worst possible outcome or at the worst time.”

“I'm not absolutely certain of the facts, but I rather fancy it's Shakespeare who says that it's always just when a fellow is feeling particularly braced with things in general that Fate sneaks up behind him with the bit of lead piping.”

Having my old F.O (Murphy) reside in my flight bag for over half a century; and having cursed multiple VAAP (Voice activated Auto Pilot) for bouncing in saying stuff like; the weather's great; Gee Whiz this aircraft is going like dream; or, informing me 'we will be at the gate – on time'. Call me superstitious; but to my mind and I may add experience – 'it ain't necessarily so'. Granny called it tempting fate; Gann called it 'Fate'; some even believe it invokes the Gremlins to visit. The time to say 'that was a good job' is in the Pub afterwards.

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/th...1d2656c36f

Why can't Bailey just STFU! Why put the Mocha's on the search? On what grounds and based on what knowledge of the technology or 'search' methodology can he possibly declare they will find MH 370? Has 'he' exclusive' information? Nah, didn't think so. I doubt he would understand the science, data or logic supporting the search; nor the money 'games' to back a Lloyd's 'open' search. The costs are phenomenal; the risk extreme, not only for the search, but to loose one of the scanning modules; or, to loose a ship and crew; or, to return to port empty handed. Bailey has naught at risk, yet even before the 'seekers' strike pay dirt – he's on the 'telly' spouting his 'expert' opinion.



"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

Toot – bloody Toot;

[Peetwo]

Malaysia finally seals the deal on latest OI MH370 search?? - 

Courtesy SkyNews Oz (forget Bailey he's a tosser -  ):

MTF...P2 

[Kharon]

Curiosity bump – awakened.

First coffee spent reading through much related to MH370. One 'article' lead to others (as it does) – and all that raised a question; to wit:-

Did the aircraft hit hard and 'break up' or 'gently' enough to allow a period of 'floating?  The reason I ask is that things like empty wing tanks float- even if torn off the air frame there would (probably) be air left in there at least at the tips, which could ?? have kept them afloat or partially submerged for a while. There is a huge (well big) volume of air within empty tanks and de pressurised fuselage.

So, assuming the plan was to disappear the whole aircraft without a trace (minimum damage) how long would it take to completely sink; given the volumes of air (even with the outlet valves open); and, wind and wave assisted, how far could it 'drift' from the first contact point with the wave tops?

I only ask as I can't find any 'intelligent' discussion on this topic and it has me intrigued.

“How are you going to find out about things if you don't ask questions?”

Even the dopey ones, from a farm bred idiot.

Toot – toot...

[ventus45]

Any fracture of the fuselage, even if it did not actually break into two or more sections, lets the air out and water in rapidly. It would not float for long. However, it is almost certain that the fuselage forward of the wing box would separate, perhaps even the rear fuselage behind the wing box as well (three sections). Both halves, or all three, would fill with water in seconds.
As for the fuel tanks, even if the wings came clean off at the center section and did not rupture the tanks in a way, the separation of the engines would break the fuel feed pipes at the spar valve, which being open, would let water in and the air would rapidly escape though the tip vents. I doubt a wing would float for more than 15 minutes max.

[Kharon]

Cheers – & thanks V: that explains the search pattern a bit more. Finding one of three or even four fair sized 'lumps' of the wreckage would provide a much smaller search area. I suppose it matters then 'how' the ditching was executed and by what method. AP on auto land or a careful hand and speed/attitude control. It is indeed a worthy puzzle. Fingers crossed for all..

Toot – toot....

[ventus45]