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For and on behalf of Ben Morgan and AOPA Oz...

SENATE RRAT INQUIRY INTO DUAL MEDICAL STANDARDS
November 21, 2018 By Benjamin Morgan



Senate Rural Regional Affairs Transport Committee
19th November 2018 – Oversight of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority
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Part 1:  Presentations by Recreational Aviation Australia Limited, Australian Warbirds Association Limited and the Australian Parachute Federation

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Part 2:  Presentations by Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association of Australia, Sport Aircraft Association of Australia, Aircraft Maintenance Repair Overhaul Business Association and the Gliding Federation of Australia

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Part 3:  Presentations by Civil Aviation Safety Authority

Benjamin Morgan
Executive Director - Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) of Australia

Supportive commentary via the AOPA Oz Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/pg/AOPAaustrali...e_internal

Nicholas Christie What a load of shit from CASA... the lies and the defence of their beautiful red tape that’s managed to wrap itself around the necks of our industry participants is extraordinary. 

“Do more things if you’re willing to pay extra for it...!” CASA. Very telling indeed.

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Sandy Reith You couldn’t make it up, the CASA system is utterly unworkable and has to be changed. But they won’t let up without a fight. They don’t get normal public service rates of pay because they are an independent statutory authority. Look at it this way, Mr.Carmody on about $600,000 pa and doesn’t even know how long RAOz has been in existence. Check the video he thinks “about ten years”. Anyway his disgraceful attempt to denigrate AOPA failed spectacularly, maybe the Senators are getting the message, its about time.

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Andrew Hurst (Part 1 - 39:01)
Mr Ferrier... I think you better read your Ops Manual 2.01-5 (15) & (16) ?
I’m sure the senate wouldn’t like being lead down a path thinking everyone is holding hands and smothering each other in rose petals... (Part 3 46:20)
Far from it Mr Ferrier!

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Ric Wilson Federal royal commission urgently needed into the state of aviation in Australia. AOPA needs to rethink any old guard leadership input lest it divide the members and create a situation where nothing has changed. Talk to the owners and pilots down on the tarmac. In the past the only guy that did that at locations like YMMB was Brian Hannon

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Keith Page If they are discovered to be lying, What are the consequences?

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Ben Hardy Part 3. 32:26.

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Ben Hardy Part 3. 46:00. Even wilder.

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Rob Lawrie Ben Hardy this part? 

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Ben Hardy Rob Lawrie yep. And Senator Sterle at 46 mins is incandescent

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Rob Lawrie Haha suckers.... Oops you guys fact check what we say under oath..

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Ian Tucker Well done Senators, keep up the pressure. These self serving bureaucrats are the people responsible for the decline of general aviation in this country. There is no evidence that pilot incapacitation is a significant factor in aviation accidents. Allowing self assessed medical in The GA category will therefore NOT increase the risk. Drain the CASA swamp and save the obscene burden on tax payers.

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Sandy Reith I agree totally with Ian Tucker, the 30 year experiment of an independent regulator has failed on every level. Safety has not been served, and there’s been a huge loss of experienced personnel in every area of General Aviation. An industry hamstrung and unable to progress by incorporating enlightened methods or new technology. An industry controlled by fear, unworkable rules that have been inapropriately migrated into the criminal code, with ease of conviction through the legal mechanism of strict liability. 

The Senate Committee hearings reveal the $600,000 pa CEO Mr. Carmody, the fatuously titled ‘Director of Air Safety,’ attempting to denigrate Ben Morgan of AOPA and the other GA representatives. This miserable ploy failed in spectacular fashion causing Senator Sterle to angrily denounce Mr. Carmody’s tactic. What a disgrace, I fervently hope that the Committee comes to understand the enormity of this 30 year failure. The jobs lost, the services forgone, especially crucial for country centres. Conversely there is a great opportunity to regrow Australian aviation if the nettle is grasped.

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Richard Talbot Certainly not CASA's finest hour they appear to have confirmed that their consultation framework is entirely ineffective. Seems they don't have any formal signoff for consulation on Part 149 at all!

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Simon Bromiley I am sure I heard a statement there that RAAus were complaining that a relaxation of medical requirements would affect their revenue. Is that what was said or do I have to play it again?

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Jeff Terry This is a sad situation. It seems that CASA's primary objective is the perceived aspect of non-evidence based safety issues while having a complete and absolute disregard for the need for a sustainable and enjoyable pastime and industry. The best waysto keep the world safe from aviation accidents is to limit the number aeroplanes flying and over-regulation will eventually bring the sector to its knees and there will be nothing for CASA to administer.

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Tony Power The moment when Mr Carmody said that if GA pilots were granted self certified medicals subject to the same restrictions as RAAus pilots he would want the excess seats in the aircraft removed was downright insulting to private pilots. He suggested thatotherwise he couldn't assure that private pilots wouldn't take more than 1 passenger, In other words displaying an attitude that unless prevented GA pilots would deliberately break the rules and simply can't be trusted. It's like saying whenever a P-plater drives a car in Victoria that the excess car seats must be removed otherwise how can we ensure they won't have more than one passenger under age 22 in breach of their conditions. What a terrible attitude on behalf of the head of our regulator.

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Peter Morgan There should be only one standard, get caught lying to the senate, either be sacked or resign with forfeiture of all entitlements.

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David Tennant Wow if i didn't think RAA were a bunch of spin doctors only interested in protecting there own empire and financial situation before i sure do now.

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David Tennant and correct my if im wrong but i would have thought making false or misleading statements to a senate hearing would have broken some kind of law. there are quite a few RAA aircraft with retractable gear and variable pitch props. I think the senators are smart enough to see whats going on here. oh well done AWAL and APF.

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Peter Denis McTaggart No wonder the senators couldn't work out what the safety issue apropos the Class2 medical is. These blokes wouldn't tell them anything. Spencer Ferrier was a nuisance, there to protect the RAA bloke, Mr King. They both looked bad.

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Richard Talbot From my vantage point it seemed that the CASA fans were up first, followed by those intent on representing their member's best interests... I still can't believe in the age of Internet that CASA is unable to conduct consultation directly with every licensed pilot in the country. They seem more interested in forming a cheer squad than receiving constructive criticism.

MTF...P2