<![CDATA[AuntyPru Forum - ASA Close encounters]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/ Tue, 12 May 2026 22:44:14 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Things that go bump in the night,]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=19 Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:39:40 +0000 Kharon]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=19 The quote from the P2 post – HERE - seems like a good way to introduce the unbelievable machinations of the Air Services Australia management. 

Quote:A couple of years ago Planetalking did a series of reports on the increasing number of loss of separation assurance & breakdown of separation incidents – that by their very nature classified them as serious incidents & therefore reportable to ICAO. Also – at that time – there was much commentary by Air Traffic Controllers on Prune/ Ben’s blog etc. that highlighted many instances where controllers forwarded incident reports either direct to ATSB or through ASA SMS on LOSA events, that received in some cases no response/ or response with no further action or no further investigation (reference: Thread titled – ASA does it again – 2011 OOL near miss investigation released ).

{Note: that even when the ATSB decide not to investigate further they are still required to notify ICAO of this fact} With further digging I was able to get a brief snapshot from the ICAO incident/accident database which in most cases showed no record for the many ATC notified LOSA/BOS incidents that didn’t escalate to a full blown investigation/prelim & final report. -
  
For those who routinely operate or travel by air in skies Downunder, the following links do provide an insight into just what the benighted ATCO are burdened with and who is running the show.



Start with –Sarcs - on the UP and finish up - HERE - with my own humble offerings, it's worth the time.

Then follow the bouncing ball to – HERE; it may amaze you, it may amuse you; but it scares me half to death.  All at great expense to the public, who provided a nice 100 million untaxed revenue to the Quango last year.]]> The quote from the P2 post – HERE - seems like a good way to introduce the unbelievable machinations of the Air Services Australia management. 

Quote:A couple of years ago Planetalking did a series of reports on the increasing number of loss of separation assurance & breakdown of separation incidents – that by their very nature classified them as serious incidents & therefore reportable to ICAO. Also – at that time – there was much commentary by Air Traffic Controllers on Prune/ Ben’s blog etc. that highlighted many instances where controllers forwarded incident reports either direct to ATSB or through ASA SMS on LOSA events, that received in some cases no response/ or response with no further action or no further investigation (reference: Thread titled – ASA does it again – 2011 OOL near miss investigation released ).

{Note: that even when the ATSB decide not to investigate further they are still required to notify ICAO of this fact} With further digging I was able to get a brief snapshot from the ICAO incident/accident database which in most cases showed no record for the many ATC notified LOSA/BOS incidents that didn’t escalate to a full blown investigation/prelim & final report. -
  
For those who routinely operate or travel by air in skies Downunder, the following links do provide an insight into just what the benighted ATCO are burdened with and who is running the show.



Start with –Sarcs - on the UP and finish up - HERE - with my own humble offerings, it's worth the time.

Then follow the bouncing ball to – HERE; it may amaze you, it may amuse you; but it scares me half to death.  All at great expense to the public, who provided a nice 100 million untaxed revenue to the Quango last year.]]>