<![CDATA[AuntyPru Forum - CASA Roast]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/ Sun, 19 Apr 2026 10:43:02 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[The Su_Spence Saga]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=204 Tue, 01 Jun 2021 00:16:26 +0000 Peetwo]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=204
And so, we open yet another new ledger for yet another DAS.

This one is not off to an auspicious beginning; there are blots on the first page.

No one likes to be patronised or fed platitudes; we cannot, not as yet, call Pony-Pooh or Bollocks but already the mood is trending toward that and more. The unfortunate opening address and the latest round of Estimates have gone down like a well trimmed man-hole cover and landed with a loud 'clang' on the stony ground of industry good will toward CASA. That was in short supply before the appointment – in tatters now. Consider:-

“I do not pretend to know everything about aviation and aviation safety, but I do bring a depth of knowledge and experience to my job.”

Aye: but from which end? Certainly not from the coal face. What can possibly be learned in the sheltered, cloistered world of secure employment, comfortable surrounds, working with like minded people and all the time in the world to arrive at a politically acceptable decision, on behalf of someone else – and no can to carry when it all turns to worms. Want a 'depth' of knowledge? Fine, take the family mortgage and bet it on gaining an AOC. Write your own manuals and travel the long weary road of gaining approvals; then set about building a business and earning a honest crust from a flight school, or charter outfit or even a third tier regular service. Try that for a couple of years; then perhaps the claim of to 'know' the industry problems will gain some credibility.


“Over the last few weeks, I have heard from people across the spectrum of Australian aviation.”

Oh! well then; that's just Fine and Dandy. Now, having said that, it will OK to retire behind the barricades and work closely with those who created the 'problems' and enforce the rules as they interpolate those to suit their own 'vision' or personal agenda.

We will set aside the bollocks which flows from the "Over the last" & etc. rubbish. All this 'heartening' collaboration, engagement and 'respect' dribble has all been said before; indeed they are now words to ignite resentment and fury – so often trotted out – placebos and patronising twaddle, used to sooth the politicians.

The last paragraph of the Spence platitude raised an urgent call for the bucket. It simply and honestly sends the wrong message. Industry's problems begin and end deep within the bowels of CASA; look to the where the rot lays and cure that; the rest will come to hand as a direct result of that. Anything else is demeaning platitude and a modified version of the same old song. I may add (as a personal note) the coy use of a 'pet' forename, to sign off is presumptuous; I will let you know when we are on a first name basis; until then, mind your manners and show some respect. Adding insult to the injury of using Crawford as your mouthpiece demonstrates clearly - just how far off track Spence has been led already, within the swamps and mires of Sleepy Hollow.

Master Hitch has penned a short piece which is worthy of inclusion on the opening page.

“New CASA CEO and Director of Aviation Safety Pip Spence has landed at Aviation House and has opened her first CASA Briefing newsletter by outlining her expertise in the aviation industry and how much she understands it. I have no qualms as such with blowing your own trumpet, but if the tune you're playing is not one the audience wants to hear it's still just noise. There is a greater risk; a gauntlet that Spence had chosen to run, and that's to put promote yourself on a platform that currently doesn't exist. In this case, it's a promise of respect. She said "Under my leadership, CASA will show respect for the aviation community and actively seek to work with people from all parts of aviation to maintain and improve safety." Right now that's an unfathomable proposition; the operations side of the regulator has a reputation for disrespect and roughshod tactics when it comes to dealing with the GA community. It's almost part of their DNA. If Spence is going to achieve her platform, some serious changes are needed; changes that will thresh out the dead wood within the department and allow new growth to thrive. Spence's problem is that she has now boldly gone where so many have gone before, and if, like the others, she fails to deliver, the aviation industry will stop listening to her tune because they will have heard it before”...

We shall leave the matter of presenting Crawford as the face of the CASA in abeyance for the moment; just until the dust has settled and the vomiting has ceased. However, it is a rather large black mark on a brand new ledger. Mistake #1 and a biggy.

I hereby declare the new DAS season open.

Toot – toot.]]>
And so, we open yet another new ledger for yet another DAS.

This one is not off to an auspicious beginning; there are blots on the first page.

No one likes to be patronised or fed platitudes; we cannot, not as yet, call Pony-Pooh or Bollocks but already the mood is trending toward that and more. The unfortunate opening address and the latest round of Estimates have gone down like a well trimmed man-hole cover and landed with a loud 'clang' on the stony ground of industry good will toward CASA. That was in short supply before the appointment – in tatters now. Consider:-

“I do not pretend to know everything about aviation and aviation safety, but I do bring a depth of knowledge and experience to my job.”

Aye: but from which end? Certainly not from the coal face. What can possibly be learned in the sheltered, cloistered world of secure employment, comfortable surrounds, working with like minded people and all the time in the world to arrive at a politically acceptable decision, on behalf of someone else – and no can to carry when it all turns to worms. Want a 'depth' of knowledge? Fine, take the family mortgage and bet it on gaining an AOC. Write your own manuals and travel the long weary road of gaining approvals; then set about building a business and earning a honest crust from a flight school, or charter outfit or even a third tier regular service. Try that for a couple of years; then perhaps the claim of to 'know' the industry problems will gain some credibility.


“Over the last few weeks, I have heard from people across the spectrum of Australian aviation.”

Oh! well then; that's just Fine and Dandy. Now, having said that, it will OK to retire behind the barricades and work closely with those who created the 'problems' and enforce the rules as they interpolate those to suit their own 'vision' or personal agenda.

We will set aside the bollocks which flows from the "Over the last" & etc. rubbish. All this 'heartening' collaboration, engagement and 'respect' dribble has all been said before; indeed they are now words to ignite resentment and fury – so often trotted out – placebos and patronising twaddle, used to sooth the politicians.

The last paragraph of the Spence platitude raised an urgent call for the bucket. It simply and honestly sends the wrong message. Industry's problems begin and end deep within the bowels of CASA; look to the where the rot lays and cure that; the rest will come to hand as a direct result of that. Anything else is demeaning platitude and a modified version of the same old song. I may add (as a personal note) the coy use of a 'pet' forename, to sign off is presumptuous; I will let you know when we are on a first name basis; until then, mind your manners and show some respect. Adding insult to the injury of using Crawford as your mouthpiece demonstrates clearly - just how far off track Spence has been led already, within the swamps and mires of Sleepy Hollow.

Master Hitch has penned a short piece which is worthy of inclusion on the opening page.

“New CASA CEO and Director of Aviation Safety Pip Spence has landed at Aviation House and has opened her first CASA Briefing newsletter by outlining her expertise in the aviation industry and how much she understands it. I have no qualms as such with blowing your own trumpet, but if the tune you're playing is not one the audience wants to hear it's still just noise. There is a greater risk; a gauntlet that Spence had chosen to run, and that's to put promote yourself on a platform that currently doesn't exist. In this case, it's a promise of respect. She said "Under my leadership, CASA will show respect for the aviation community and actively seek to work with people from all parts of aviation to maintain and improve safety." Right now that's an unfathomable proposition; the operations side of the regulator has a reputation for disrespect and roughshod tactics when it comes to dealing with the GA community. It's almost part of their DNA. If Spence is going to achieve her platform, some serious changes are needed; changes that will thresh out the dead wood within the department and allow new growth to thrive. Spence's problem is that she has now boldly gone where so many have gone before, and if, like the others, she fails to deliver, the aviation industry will stop listening to her tune because they will have heard it before”...

We shall leave the matter of presenting Crawford as the face of the CASA in abeyance for the moment; just until the dust has settled and the vomiting has ceased. However, it is a rather large black mark on a brand new ledger. Mistake #1 and a biggy.

I hereby declare the new DAS season open.

Toot – toot.]]> <![CDATA[The noble Art - Embuggerance.]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=57 Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:51:14 +0000 Kharon]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=57 One, of the many,  for the legal eagles pot.

A strange tale (helicopter related). - I would like to ask, if I may what you would call this story, in nice (as in accurate) terms.  The story, as it was recently told to me goes like this:-

CASA 'did' a chopper pilot (Chopper) over,  the whole nine yards: license, reputation, job etc; not in court though; DPP didn't want a bar of it.  So, off to the AAT with their star witness, who was looking at a jail term, (on account of being dopey, naughty and getting caught), in tow.  CASA produced statements, evidence and even video footage in support of their case; they even had the AFP collect and deliver the 'on bail' witness to the AAT.

Well, the case was heard, the decision made the license stripped and a not a fit a proper edict was supported.  In the aftermath, all the usual things occurred after an event like that; divorce, depression, anger and anger management issues.  During the breakdown of normal life, Chopper decided to 'scratch' around a bit; as he knew, for certain sure that he 'didn't do it".  In short; after some judicious searching and some time spent with the now released 'star' witness (SW) revealed some very interesting, provable facts.  Things like SW recanting and reversing all previous testimony.  SW is also reported as stating that subtle hints relating to a longer term at HMP could be provided should cooperation be less than enthusiastic; and, that maybe a room with a view and time off on account o'being good, could be arranged.  Well, the 'paperwork' was all signed, sealed and delivered; evidence, statements, the whole shooting match.  This was all duly despatched, on advice, to CASA legal, in the hopes of having things put to rights; - for Chopper you understand. 

There was much talk of 'mounting' a thorough investigation, through the proper channels; so Chopper waits a while, then waits another little while, wondering, as you would, just WTF is going on.  

Here's the crazy part – Eventually, word filters through that Choppers' plaint and righteous indignation have been ignored, not considered.  It seems that the entire brief has been flipped and conjured into a complaint made by SW - against the 'investigator' (s) and marked for AFP attention : 'cept AFP have never heard of it, no paperwork etc..   

Aye, it's passing strange.  You'll admit that's quite a twist and a puzzle of the legal variety for a lay mind to grapple with.   Not being privy to 'all' the 'paperwork', and only working with 'hearsay', the truth, the whole truth and nothing but etc. SHMG is beyond my short reach.  But, humour me, if it all turns out to be Kosher (or Halal if it pleases) what, precisely are we looking at here?   

Toot toot.]]> One, of the many,  for the legal eagles pot.

A strange tale (helicopter related). - I would like to ask, if I may what you would call this story, in nice (as in accurate) terms.  The story, as it was recently told to me goes like this:-

CASA 'did' a chopper pilot (Chopper) over,  the whole nine yards: license, reputation, job etc; not in court though; DPP didn't want a bar of it.  So, off to the AAT with their star witness, who was looking at a jail term, (on account of being dopey, naughty and getting caught), in tow.  CASA produced statements, evidence and even video footage in support of their case; they even had the AFP collect and deliver the 'on bail' witness to the AAT.

Well, the case was heard, the decision made the license stripped and a not a fit a proper edict was supported.  In the aftermath, all the usual things occurred after an event like that; divorce, depression, anger and anger management issues.  During the breakdown of normal life, Chopper decided to 'scratch' around a bit; as he knew, for certain sure that he 'didn't do it".  In short; after some judicious searching and some time spent with the now released 'star' witness (SW) revealed some very interesting, provable facts.  Things like SW recanting and reversing all previous testimony.  SW is also reported as stating that subtle hints relating to a longer term at HMP could be provided should cooperation be less than enthusiastic; and, that maybe a room with a view and time off on account o'being good, could be arranged.  Well, the 'paperwork' was all signed, sealed and delivered; evidence, statements, the whole shooting match.  This was all duly despatched, on advice, to CASA legal, in the hopes of having things put to rights; - for Chopper you understand. 

There was much talk of 'mounting' a thorough investigation, through the proper channels; so Chopper waits a while, then waits another little while, wondering, as you would, just WTF is going on.  

Here's the crazy part – Eventually, word filters through that Choppers' plaint and righteous indignation have been ignored, not considered.  It seems that the entire brief has been flipped and conjured into a complaint made by SW - against the 'investigator' (s) and marked for AFP attention : 'cept AFP have never heard of it, no paperwork etc..   

Aye, it's passing strange.  You'll admit that's quite a twist and a puzzle of the legal variety for a lay mind to grapple with.   Not being privy to 'all' the 'paperwork', and only working with 'hearsay', the truth, the whole truth and nothing but etc. SHMG is beyond my short reach.  But, humour me, if it all turns out to be Kosher (or Halal if it pleases) what, precisely are we looking at here?   

Toot toot.]]> <![CDATA[Mythical reform.]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=53 Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:13:47 +0000 Kharon]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=53 If there was ever a shred of doubt the CASA world is totally insane, this should remove it. :- Big Grin

 
Pythagoras' Theorem: .......................................24 words
Lord's Prayer: .................................................. 66 words
Archimedes' Principle: ..................................67 words
Ten Commandments: ......................................179 words
Gettysburg Address: ........................................286 words
US Declaration of Independence: ..................1,300 words
US Constitution with all 27 Amendments: ......7,818 words
EU Regulations on the Sale of CABBAGES: ...26,911 words
Part 61  REFORM............................................Have a guess....you know you want to...... Wink .
 
Steam on, later perhaps id the 145 MoS survives.  61 Next.]]> If there was ever a shred of doubt the CASA world is totally insane, this should remove it. :- Big Grin

 
Pythagoras' Theorem: .......................................24 words
Lord's Prayer: .................................................. 66 words
Archimedes' Principle: ..................................67 words
Ten Commandments: ......................................179 words
Gettysburg Address: ........................................286 words
US Declaration of Independence: ..................1,300 words
US Constitution with all 27 Amendments: ......7,818 words
EU Regulations on the Sale of CABBAGES: ...26,911 words
Part 61  REFORM............................................Have a guess....you know you want to...... Wink .
 
Steam on, later perhaps id the 145 MoS survives.  61 Next.]]> <![CDATA[CASA meets the Press]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=56 Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:53:08 +0000 Peetwo]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=56

Quote:Call for action on air safety reforms  

Steve Creedy
[Image: steve_creedy.png]
Aviation Editor
Sydney
https://plus.google.com/107158623429005505864

AVIATION groups seeking faster action on last year’s Forsyth report into aviation safety have urged the federal government and the air safety regulator to urgently embrace reform.  

The Australian Aviation Associations Forum, the peak body for aviation groups, urged Infrastructure Minister Warren Truss as well as the new Civil Aviation Safety Authority board and the authority’s boss Mark Skidmore to pursue “a fundamental improvement in aviation in Australia”.

A communique to be issued today at the Avalon International Airshow in Victoria says the future of aviation in Australia is starting to look promising but only if politicians, the infrastructure and department heads act now.

It called on Mr Truss to finalise a letter of intent to direct CASA to follow a new path of co-operation that would cut outmoded regulation.

“The forum noted that it was enthusiastic about reform noises coming from the minister and CASA, and was hopeful this would turn into a systematic approach to restructure and improve the culture of the regulator based on the government and industry endorsed (report),’’ it said.

The forum called for the setting up of key CASA-industry joint taskforces to address problems with implementation of flight crew licensing.
Separately, the industry welcomed the appointment of former Qantas chief pilot Chris Manning as a commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau.
In other words miniscule & Skates get on with it... Dodgy]]>

Quote:Call for action on air safety reforms  

Steve Creedy
[Image: steve_creedy.png]
Aviation Editor
Sydney
https://plus.google.com/107158623429005505864

AVIATION groups seeking faster action on last year’s Forsyth report into aviation safety have urged the federal government and the air safety regulator to urgently embrace reform.  

The Australian Aviation Associations Forum, the peak body for aviation groups, urged Infrastructure Minister Warren Truss as well as the new Civil Aviation Safety Authority board and the authority’s boss Mark Skidmore to pursue “a fundamental improvement in aviation in Australia”.

A communique to be issued today at the Avalon International Airshow in Victoria says the future of aviation in Australia is starting to look promising but only if politicians, the infrastructure and department heads act now.

It called on Mr Truss to finalise a letter of intent to direct CASA to follow a new path of co-operation that would cut outmoded regulation.

“The forum noted that it was enthusiastic about reform noises coming from the minister and CASA, and was hopeful this would turn into a systematic approach to restructure and improve the culture of the regulator based on the government and industry endorsed (report),’’ it said.

The forum called for the setting up of key CASA-industry joint taskforces to address problems with implementation of flight crew licensing.
Separately, the industry welcomed the appointment of former Qantas chief pilot Chris Manning as a commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau.
In other words miniscule & Skates get on with it... Dodgy]]> <![CDATA[CASA Estimates.]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=54 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:51:07 +0000 Peetwo]]> https://auntypru.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=54
{ Note: Apparently -according to Heff-  Farq-u-hard-son needed an early Chardy & would be inebriated by 8pm... Huh Ps Personally I wouldn't have counted that as any great loss for what the GWM Don added to the evening}.

Anyway here is the 1st part which started off with Senator Fawcett welcoming the new DAS Skidmore & then launching into questions on Part 61 & (non)-consultation issues with the Heli-mustering boys'n'gals... Wink :


MTF...you bet! Tongue  ]]>
{ Note: Apparently -according to Heff-  Farq-u-hard-son needed an early Chardy & would be inebriated by 8pm... Huh Ps Personally I wouldn't have counted that as any great loss for what the GWM Don added to the evening}.

Anyway here is the 1st part which started off with Senator Fawcett welcoming the new DAS Skidmore & then launching into questions on Part 61 & (non)-consultation issues with the Heli-mustering boys'n'gals... Wink :


MTF...you bet! Tongue  ]]>