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The tale of Karen Casey.
#91
Ziggy girl, you're not crazy. Battling bureaucracies and corrupt parasites makes you feel like you are going crazy, but you're not. Let them label you whatever they want to, it doesn't change the fact that you are tougher than any one of those weak, pathetic, spineless vermin will ever be (there you go, I just labelled them, and f@ck em all). At least you don't hide behind 'stacked' laws and under a rock. You are the real deal, a real person, and we've come to consider you to be a friend.

I suggest you have a rest, indulge in your passion for music, meditate and regather your strength and thoughts. There will always be a chair kept warm for you in the front row of the viewing platform on the Styx Houseboat, so we will let you know when we pick up some well deserving scalps. Blood lettings and purgatory are Captain Kharon's speciality. I just tune the engines and keep the boat ship-shape. Never fear, your seat at the PAIN table remains reserved.

P.S As for the McComic shit-o-gram we've all had one of them, it's a compliment. And Skull, if you're reading this - kiss my hairy ass, f#cker!
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#92
For and on behalf of Ziggy - The following is a quote off the Senate Estimates thread:
Quote:Commonwealth legislative provisions relating to oversight of associated entities of political parties



Quote:On 19 April 2016, the following matter was referred to the Finance and Public Administration References Committee for inquiry and report by the 4 May 2016:

Commonwealth legislative provisions relating to oversight of associated entities of political parties, with particular reference to the adequacy of:

1.the funding and disclosure regime relating to annual returns;

2.the powers of the Australian Electoral Commission with respect to supervision of the conduct of, and reporting by, associated entities of political parties; and

3.any related matters; and

2.     That the Senate direct Senator Sinodinos to appear before the committee to answer questions.

The Submission closing date is mid-day, Tuesday 26 April 2016. The reporting date is 4 May 2016.
Probably much to the Ferryman's horror   Big Grin , those ToR got me thinking..thinking..thinking???  Mainly 1. & definitely 3. but also some of 2. maybe??

As most PAIN associates know, PAIN has an extensive file on the PelAir cover-up Senate inquiry, that still gets regular updates and further information added, while we are actively conducting our parallel investigation with the ATSB VH-NGA re-investigation.

Now part of that file includes volumes of information pertaining to any dodgy or otherwise associations between REX and various political parties &/or government agencies. In particular there was one very murky association and political donation that occurred just prior to the Senate inquiry which began 22nd October 2012:


Quote:“Do you operate or conduct business under any other names?"


Rex made a $250,000 donation to the ALP, $95,700 to the federal Nationals and $40,000 to the Liberal Party. This made the small airline one of the biggest political donors in the country.

“Rex is a public company and it had an obligation to explain whether even one (word) regarding the crash was spoken with any of the political parties,” Mr Xenophon told The Australian.

“This largesse to political parties is inexplicably baffling and I will be buying some shares in Rex and asking them to explain it.”

&..




Quote:The airline had earlier incorrectly claimed it had made no donations to the LNP; however, when shown otherwise, Ms Chapple said the airline had meant it had made no donations to the Queensland LNP.


Of particular interest was Rex’s $250,000 donation to the federal ALP given the airline was a highly vocal critic of the Labor government.

In 2013 Rex publicly said the ALP was “hellbent” on destroying regional aviation and “along with it pretty much the rest of the economy”.

Mr Xenophon said it appeared to defy reason why Rex would donate heavily to a government it would shortly afterwards describe as “destroying its industry”.

“Perhaps Rex had a case of Stockholm syndrome?” he said.

In 2009 a Rex aeroplane — operated under the group’s Pel-Air brand — ditched into the ocean with six passengers on board, badly injuring one.

A lengthy Australian Transport Safety Board investigation blamed the Pel-Air pilot involved in the crash but failed to mention 57 breaches or “serious deficiencies” at Pel-Air.

Mr Xenophon headed a Senate committee inquiry into that botched investigation, which led to the federal government last month calling on the ATSB to reopen the investigation.

I also seem to recall a certain DIP statement, that recorded the DIP (on the way up to meeting with former minister Albo) bumping into a certain Mr John Sharp coming out of the lift with a number of files etc. under his arm?? - Hmm definitely have to dig that one out  Wink  

Very much related to the questionable motivation of the REX donation to the Labor party the following email chain was shared by Ziggy:
Quote:Hi All,

See Below.

Our "Seinfeld Parliament" is in Fine Form.

About Nothing...

Pleading for closure, truth, safety & fairness.

Years on, the Shiny Happy People of Parliament are

Content to ignore Serious Aviation Issues.

As I read this today.

I just shake my head in disbelief.

Supposed, well educated Men I left my

Life in. Never thinking for a moment 

That flying regularly around Australia

& the Pacific, I was SAFE.

Apparently NOT.

We all know the History of this Perplexed

continued "under the radar" whispers.

Now, beginning to be Amplified by an Elect-I-on.

So now the Shiny ones, after all these years

allow 30mins for Presentation & 30Mins for Q&A??

One hour.

Insulting to say the least.

The ridiculousness of Politics.

Nothing has changed, except seats.

Dangerous.

I'm with you all.

More time needed.

Absolutely.

Fawcett or X needed.

Oath.

KCy

 From the bottom the Ziggy FOI request rejection, from former minister Albo's office.. Wink  
 
Quote:Dear Ms Casey
 
Decision on access - FOI MO 13-01 – Audit report into Pel Air Aircraft VH-NGA
 
I refer to your request for access to documents in the possession of the Office of the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 1982
(the FOI Act). 
 
Your request sought access to:                                                                                                                 
 
An Audit Report of Pel Air Aircraft VH-NGA prepared by CASA
 
A statement of reasons is attached. The original will be posted to you.
 
Please contact me if you have any questions regarding the processing of your request. I can be reached by telephone on (02) 6274 6495 (or through the Department’s switchboard number on 1800 075 001) or by email at FOI@infrastructure.gov.au.
 
To assist the Department in responding to your future communication on this request, please quote the FOI tracking number located in the subject line.
 
Regards,
Rochelle Griffith
Governance, Planning and Reporting Section
Governance and Reporting Branch | Corporate Services Division
Department of Infrastructure and Transport
( (02) 6274 6495
 
Next Ziggy's request for review:
Quote:Dear Ms Debra Chesters,
 
As you know I have already submitted a request dated august 8th 2012 regarding the special CASA audit on VH-NGA Pel-Air. This was rejected hence why I have decided to pursue the next option of requesting a more senior investigative option. I thank you for your work, the search and the prompt reply.

Please pass on the below email to the appropriate person.
 
I, Karen casey request an internal review from the Minister of Transport and Infrastructure regarding the ditching of VH-NGA Pel-Air on November, 18, 2012.

I understand a thorough search was made recently and the document mentioned was not found.

I don NOT understand how our Minister of TRANSPORT would not have this document in his possession as it was a serious incident.

Just because there was no loss of life, does not warrant a head turn of ignorance. We fought every second to stay alive, from mpact to the ninety minutes in shark infested water fighting to breath. I want answers, truthful answers and an explanation as to why he has not received the documents. It is close to three years. Stop treating us as fools. 

I may not have died, but living with excruciating physical pain and psychological problems are intolerable. I deserve the truth from my government. No more lies.
 
Many lessons can be learnt from this incident, but it seems, from my view that ego and pride trumps the truth. I am extremely disappointed in the conduct of CASA, the Minister, the ATSB and of the operators Pel-Air/Rex.
 
How can a Minister for transport not have these documents and be acutely aware of the incident. I do not understand. The integrity that is suppose to govern incidents such as this I can not see.

I know there is a copy of the report on the ABC website. I want it from my Minister office, it has to be there.

I have not watched the ABC program as my mind is not yet ready to see a re-enactment nor hear the absolute lies that come out of our aviation leaders mouth.

I believe if action is not taken towards our aviation watchdogs and investigators, my fear is that a devastating air disaster of greater magnitude will occur in this country. This will be on your hands. This would be caused through lack of professional oversight of robust policies and procedures with regular performance management. Not for large airlines only, but for our smaller aviation business, human lives involved here too.

Airwork involves professional people dedicated to helping/rescuing others in distress or acutely ill.

We deserve the same respect and protection.

There is also the very clear element of the law of gravity, a law of the universe. Aviation needs to be completely independent from our grounded incidents. Specialised, qualified and experienced individuals need to be totally dedicated to aviation to keep our skies safe from the law of gravity that can not be broken. Please think about this.
 
I am experiencing the consequences of NGA, I would not wish it upon my worst enemy.
Isn't it time our Minister made changes.
 
Please pass this onto Prime Minister Julia Gillard, she needs to know, she flies regularly.
 
Regards,

Next the reply to that 30 days later.. Dodgy
Quote:Dear Ms Casey

 
I refer to your email below and request for internal review of the recent FOI access decision of the Office for the Minister of Infrastructure and Transport.  Please see attached the completed review request.
 
Kind regards
Allison Kenna
FOI Coordinator
Governance, Planning and Reporting
Department of Infrastructure and Transport 
& the inevitable Ziggy reply:
Quote: Dear Mr Albanese,
 
Why do you not have a copy of the audit from CASA regarding the ditching of VH-NGA?
I would think being a Transport Minister that you would have copies of such serious incidents in the form of report, especially considering that we were travelling through International air-space. Please answer that question too.
 
Kind Regards,
Karen Casey.

TBC..

The questions that Ziggy asked back then were IMO fair & reasonable, why would the former minister Albanese deny having access or reject the proposition of being able to obtain a copy of the December 2009 CASA 'Special Audit Report' of PelAir? Could it be that that by then Albo had already reached some formal agreement to O&O the ATSB PelAir investigation in lieu of the REX 250K political donation? One thing is for sure Albo definitely has held 'MUM' on making any comments, responses to the Senate PelAir cover-up inquiry findings. Maybe that's what the 250K was for i.e. to buy his silence??

Makes you wonder about the former minister for no-aviation Albo's opposition to the original Senator Xenophon motion for inquiry. 

[Image: Dolan-TB.jpg]

Kind of ironic how Dolan was more than happy to participate in & engage with the good Senator in regards to his inquiries on the PelAir cover-up final report. Big Grin


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#93
(04-26-2016, 09:53 PM)Peetwo Wrote: Cost of Albo's silence??


Quote:INDEPENDENT senator Nick Xenophon has called large political donations by listed regional airline Rex “incredibly baffling” and said he would be buying shares in the company so he could press board members on why the donations were made.


Mr Xenophon, who led a Senate committee inquiry into much criticised government investigation into the crash of a Rex-owned passenger plane off Norfolk Island, said the airline had an “obligation” to disclose why the donations were made.


Between July and November 2012 — amid a three-year inquiry into the Norfolk Island crash — Rex made a $250,000 donation to the ALP, $95,700 to the federal Nationals and $40,000 to the Liberal Party. This made the small airline one of the biggest political donors in the country.


“Rex is a public company and it had an obligation to explain whether even one (word) regarding the crash was spoken with any of the political parties,” Mr Xenophon told The Australian.


“This largesse to political parties is inexplicably baffling and I will be buying some shares in Rex and asking them to explain it.”


Rex spokeswoman Alicia Chapple has declined to respond to repeated questions from The Australian this week regarding the donations and other matters, saying that the airline did “not see the need to devote additional resources to this matter”.


The airline had earlier incorrectly claimed it had made no donations to the LNP; however, when shown otherwise, Ms Chapple said the airline had meant it had made no donations to the Queensland LNP.


Of particular interest was Rex’s $250,000 donation to the federal ALP given the airline was a highly vocal critic of the Labor government.


In 2013 Rex publicly said the ALP was “hellbent” on destroying regional aviation and “along with it pretty much the rest of the economy”.


Mr Xenophon said it appeared to defy reason why Rex would donate heavily to a government it would shortly afterwards describe as “destroying its industry”.


“Perhaps Rex had a case of Stockholm syndrome?” he said.


In 2009 a Rex aeroplane — operated under the group’s Pel-Air brand — ditched into the ocean with six passengers on board, badly injuring one.


A lengthy Australian Transport Safety Board investigation blamed the Pel-Air pilot involved in the crash but failed to mention 57 breaches or “serious deficiencies” at Pel-Air.


Mr Xenophon headed a Senate committee inquiry into that botched investigation, which led to the federal government last month calling on the ATSB to reopen the investigation.


Rex has also come under the spotlight after it was last year awarded a series of key Queensland government contracts which had previously been held by Cairns-based rival Skytrans.

For and on behalf of Ziggy - The following is a quote off the Senate Estimates thread:


Quote:Commonwealth legislative provisions relating to oversight of associated entities of political parties


Quote:On 19 April 2016, the following matter was referred to the Finance and Public Administration References Committee for inquiry and report by the 4 May 2016:

Commonwealth legislative provisions relating to oversight of associated entities of political parties, with particular reference to the adequacy of:

1.the funding and disclosure regime relating to annual returns;

2.the powers of the Australian Electoral Commission with respect to supervision of the conduct of, and reporting by, associated entities of political parties; and

3.any related matters; and

2.     That the Senate direct Senator Sinodinos to appear before the committee to answer questions.

The Submission closing date is mid-day, Tuesday 26 April 2016. The reporting date is 4 May 2016.
Probably much to the Ferryman's horror   Big Grin , those ToR got me thinking..thinking..thinking???  Mainly 1. & definitely 3. but also some of 2. maybe??

As most PAIN associates know, PAIN has an extensive file on the PelAir cover-up Senate inquiry, that still gets regular updates and further information added, while we are actively conducting our parallel investigation with the ATSB VH-NGA re-investigation.

Now part of that file includes volumes of information pertaining to any dodgy or otherwise associations between REX and various political parties &/or government agencies. In particular there was one very murky association and political donation that occurred just prior to the Senate inquiry which began 22nd October 2012:




Quote:“Do you operate or conduct business under any other names?"


Rex made a $250,000 donation to the ALP, $95,700 to the federal Nationals and $40,000 to the Liberal Party. This made the small airline one of the biggest political donors in the country.

“Rex is a public company and it had an obligation to explain whether even one (word) regarding the crash was spoken with any of the political parties,” Mr Xenophon told The Australian.

“This largesse to political parties is inexplicably baffling and I will be buying some shares in Rex and asking them to explain it.”

&..






Quote:The airline had earlier incorrectly claimed it had made no donations to the LNP; however, when shown otherwise, Ms Chapple said the airline had meant it had made no donations to the Queensland LNP.


Of particular interest was Rex’s $250,000 donation to the federal ALP given the airline was a highly vocal critic of the Labor government.

In 2013 Rex publicly said the ALP was “hellbent” on destroying regional aviation and “along with it pretty much the rest of the economy”.

Mr Xenophon said it appeared to defy reason why Rex would donate heavily to a government it would shortly afterwards describe as “destroying its industry”.

“Perhaps Rex had a case of Stockholm syndrome?” he said.

In 2009 a Rex aeroplane — operated under the group’s Pel-Air brand — ditched into the ocean with six passengers on board, badly injuring one.

A lengthy Australian Transport Safety Board investigation blamed the Pel-Air pilot involved in the crash but failed to mention 57 breaches or “serious deficiencies” at Pel-Air.

Mr Xenophon headed a Senate committee inquiry into that botched investigation, which led to the federal government last month calling on the ATSB to reopen the investigation.

I also seem to recall a certain DIP statement, that recorded the DIP (on the way up to meeting with former minister Albo) bumping into a certain Mr John Sharp coming out of the lift with a number of files etc. under his arm?? - Hmm definitely have to dig that one out  Wink  

Very much related to the questionable motivation of the REX donation to the Labor party the following email chain was shared by Ziggy:


Quote:Hi All,

See Below.

Our "Seinfeld Parliament" is in Fine Form.

About Nothing...

Pleading for closure, truth, safety & fairness.

Years on, the Shiny Happy People of Parliament are

Content to ignore Serious Aviation Issues.

As I read this today.

I just shake my head in disbelief.

Supposed, well educated Men I left my

Life in. Never thinking for a moment 

That flying regularly around Australia

& the Pacific, I was SAFE.

Apparently NOT.

We all know the History of this Perplexed

continued "under the radar" whispers.

Now, beginning to be Amplified by an Elect-I-on.

So now the Shiny ones, after all these years

allow 30mins for Presentation & 30Mins for Q&A??

One hour.

Insulting to say the least.

The ridiculousness of Politics.

Nothing has changed, except seats.

Dangerous.

I'm with you all.

More time needed.

Absolutely.

Fawcett or X needed.

Oath.

KCy

 From the bottom the Ziggy FOI request rejection, from former minister Albo's office.. Wink  
 


Quote:Dear Ms Casey
 
Decision on access - FOI MO 13-01 – Audit report into Pel Air Aircraft VH-NGA
 
I refer to your request for access to documents in the possession of the Office of the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 1982
(the FOI Act). 
 
Your request sought access to:                                                                                                                 
 
An Audit Report of Pel Air Aircraft VH-NGA prepared by CASA
 
A statement of reasons is attached. The original will be posted to you.
 
Please contact me if you have any questions regarding the processing of your request. I can be reached by telephone on (02) 6274 6495 (or through the Department’s switchboard number on 1800 075 001) or by email at FOI@infrastructure.gov.au.
 
To assist the Department in responding to your future communication on this request, please quote the FOI tracking number located in the subject line.
 
Regards,
Rochelle Griffith
Governance, Planning and Reporting Section
Governance and Reporting Branch | Corporate Services Division
Department of Infrastructure and Transport
( (02) 6274 6495
 
Next Ziggy's request for review:


Quote:Dear Ms Debra Chesters,
 
As you know I have already submitted a request dated august 8th 2012 regarding the special CASA audit on VH-NGA Pel-Air. This was rejected hence why I have decided to pursue the next option of requesting a more senior investigative option. I thank you for your work, the search and the prompt reply.

Please pass on the below email to the appropriate person.
 
I, Karen casey request an internal review from the Minister of Transport and Infrastructure regarding the ditching of VH-NGA Pel-Air on November, 18, 2012.

I understand a thorough search was made recently and the document mentioned was not found.

I don NOT understand how our Minister of TRANSPORT would not have this document in his possession as it was a serious incident.

Just because there was no loss of life, does not warrant a head turn of ignorance. We fought every second to stay alive, from mpact to the ninety minutes in shark infested water fighting to breath. I want answers, truthful answers and an explanation as to why he has not received the documents. It is close to three years. Stop treating us as fools. 

I may not have died, but living with excruciating physical pain and psychological problems are intolerable. I deserve the truth from my government. No more lies.
 
Many lessons can be learnt from this incident, but it seems, from my view that ego and pride trumps the truth. I am extremely disappointed in the conduct of CASA, the Minister, the ATSB and of the operators Pel-Air/Rex.
 
How can a Minister for transport not have these documents and be acutely aware of the incident. I do not understand. The integrity that is suppose to govern incidents such as this I can not see.

I know there is a copy of the report on the ABC website. I want it from my Minister office, it has to be there.

I have not watched the ABC program as my mind is not yet ready to see a re-enactment nor hear the absolute lies that come out of our aviation leaders mouth.

I believe if action is not taken towards our aviation watchdogs and investigators, my fear is that a devastating air disaster of greater magnitude will occur in this country. This will be on your hands. This would be caused through lack of professional oversight of robust policies and procedures with regular performance management. Not for large airlines only, but for our smaller aviation business, human lives involved here too.

Airwork involves professional people dedicated to helping/rescuing others in distress or acutely ill.

We deserve the same respect and protection.

There is also the very clear element of the law of gravity, a law of the universe. Aviation needs to be completely independent from our grounded incidents. Specialised, qualified and experienced individuals need to be totally dedicated to aviation to keep our skies safe from the law of gravity that can not be broken. Please think about this.
 
I am experiencing the consequences of NGA, I would not wish it upon my worst enemy.
Isn't it time our Minister made changes.
 
Please pass this onto Prime Minister Julia Gillard, she needs to know, she flies regularly.
 
Regards,

Next the reply to that 30 days later.. Dodgy


Quote:Dear Ms Casey

 
I refer to your email below and request for internal review of the recent FOI access decision of the Office for the Minister of Infrastructure and Transport.  Please see attached the completed review request.
 
Kind regards
Allison Kenna
FOI Coordinator
Governance, Planning and Reporting
Department of Infrastructure and Transport 
& the inevitable Ziggy reply:


Quote: Dear Mr Albanese,
 
Why do you not have a copy of the audit from CASA regarding the ditching of VH-NGA?
I would think being a Transport Minister that you would have copies of such serious incidents in the form of report, especially considering that we were travelling through International air-space. Please answer that question too.
 
Kind Regards,
Karen Casey.

TBC..

The questions that Ziggy asked back then were IMO fair & reasonable, why would the former minister Albanese deny having access or reject the proposition of being able to obtain a copy of the December 2009 CASA 'Special Audit Report' of PelAir? Could it be that that by then Albo had already reached some formal agreement to O&O the ATSB PelAir investigation in lieu of the REX 250K political donation? One thing is for sure Albo definitely has held 'MUM' on making any comments, responses to the Senate PelAir cover-up inquiry findings. Maybe that's what the 250K was for i.e. to buy his silence??

Makes you wonder about the former minister for no-aviation Albo's opposition to the original Senator Xenophon motion for inquiry. 

[Image: Dolan-TB.jpg]

Kind of ironic how Dolan was more than happy to participate in & engage with the good Senator in regards to his inquiries on the PelAir cover-up final report. Big Grin


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#94
The Bold & The Beautiful Continuum


It's seems to be that Politans are more interested in their drive to their own agenda of self gain/votes/selfie pics.

An obvious statement, perhaps, but to actually witness with my own eyes, the many serious, unanswered questions and complete ignorance from a well informed Minister of Transport, is unacceptable.

Tamworth:

The "Band-Aid" effect of the Aviation Portfolio, has manifested into a wound that is very deep.

Offshore maintenance, Aviation Regulations, to steep in cost to keep a Small Aviation Business in the Air.

Monopolies have been well established.

The reason I spoke of the Political Donations regarding the Pel-Air Matter was to highlight that:

*How could a Small Aviation Business survive against Larger Aviation Business that can Donate to Parties? Without any investigation to the questionable absence of donations for many years, then the convenient timing around the Senate.

*Small Aviation Business or Aircraft Owners are not privilege to "Political Contacts" to influence with the sweetener of Money.

*Correctly said by Jeff Boyd. Yes the "Band-Aid" effect is not working.

*Owners of Aircraft are struggling due to Regulations scripted by UNQUALIFIED people with Law Degrees and/or Institutionlised Minds. 

Which makes me wonder...
IF...the Pel-Air disgrace was managed correctly and swiftly by Honest, Qualified Investigators and a DAS that gave a shit, would the reactive band-AIDS have been rushed into play?

So, how can Pel-Air get away with what they have? Would a smaller Business?
I doubt it. Not with 57 breaches at the time of the ditching.
Money. Money. Money.

Australian Aviation is being Monopolised by Off-Shore Investors with the intent of ruining the livlihood of an Industry which is a massive clog in the wheel of Australian Productivity. 
Take this away from hard working, passionate aviators?

Fair, how can that be?

Sell it all to off-shore investors, a crime to the hard workers of this Great Land.

The chain-Reaction, not pro-active, of the hurried new policies implemented to the Industry has resulted in the rapid the meltdown.

Is this a direct result of the Governmental embarrassing  Pel-Air cover-up?

Hurried policies, ignorant Ministers and Beauracrats practicing "their laws". Rather than real experts, a robust, prompt real report many years ago with sensible outcomes.

The scabs under the Band-Aids are coming off and the Political BS is being exposed.

Those with money or friends in power,  who sit behind a desk, seem to be advantageous than those who actually work long hours to feed their families.

Nick X, you most certainly have my vote as it seems he is one of the last Honest Politicians really aiming for fairness in Australia.

I really hope that change is made, and quickly, by actual experts, not MrDak lawyer style. Dangerous Practice from a Government Body. 

My thoughts are with all the passionate aviators who just want a fair go and to see their industry flourish without all the unnecessary costs.

And the Government wonder why the quality of skills are diminishing here and jobs are disappearing.

Keep Australians working by keeping manufacturing here.

Looking forward to hearing good news soon for GA & RA Aviation.

Warm thoughts to the people that have felt the ice-cold responses from their Ministers and other Aviation Bodies that have hindered progress, over many, many years.

Ziggy  Heart


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(05-01-2016, 11:37 AM)Peetwo Wrote:
(04-26-2016, 09:53 PM)Peetwo Wrote: Cost of Albo's silence??

Quote:INDEPENDENT senator Nick Xenophon has called large political donations by listed regional airline Rex “incredibly baffling” and said he would be buying shares in the company so he could press board members on why the donations were made.

Mr Xenophon, who led a Senate committee inquiry into much criticised government investigation into the crash of a Rex-owned passenger plane off Norfolk Island, said the airline had an “obligation” to disclose why the donations were made.


Between July and November 2012 — amid a three-year inquiry into the Norfolk Island crash — Rex made a $250,000 donation to the ALP, $95,700 to the federal Nationals and $40,000 to the Liberal Party. This made the small airline one of the biggest political donors in the country.

“Rex is a public company and it had an obligation to explain whether even one (word) regarding the crash was spoken with any of the political parties,” Mr Xenophon told The Australian.

..Of particular interest was Rex’s $250,000 donation to the federal ALP given the airline was a highly vocal critic of the Labor government.

In 2013 Rex publicly said the ALP was “hellbent” on destroying regional aviation and “along with it pretty much the rest of the economy”.

Mr Xenophon said it appeared to defy reason why Rex would donate heavily to a government it would shortly afterwards describe as “destroying its industry”.

“Perhaps Rex had a case of Stockholm syndrome?” he said.

In 2009 a Rex aeroplane — operated under the group’s Pel-Air brand — ditched into the ocean with six passengers on board, badly injuring one.

A lengthy Australian Transport Safety Board investigation blamed the Pel-Air pilot involved in the crash but failed to mention 57 breaches or “serious deficiencies” at Pel-Air.

Mr Xenophon headed a Senate committee inquiry into that botched investigation, which led to the federal government last month calling on the ATSB to reopen the investigation...

Quote:I also seem to recall a certain DIP statement, that recorded the DIP (on the way up to meeting with former minister Albo) bumping into a certain Mr John Sharp coming out of the lift with a number of files etc. under his arm?? - Hmm definitely have to dig that one out  Wink  

Quote: Dear Mr Albanese,
 
Why do you not have a copy of the audit from CASA regarding the ditching of VH-NGA?
I would think being a Transport Minister that you would have copies of such serious incidents in the form of report, especially considering that we were travelling through International air-space. Please answer that question too.
 
Kind Regards,
Karen Casey.

TBC..

The questions that Ziggy asked back then were IMO fair & reasonable, why would the former minister Albanese deny having access or reject the proposition of being able to obtain a copy of the December 2009 CASA 'Special Audit Report' of PelAir? Could it be that that by then Albo had already reached some formal agreement to O&O the ATSB PelAir investigation in lieu of the REX 250K political donation? One thing is for sure Albo definitely has held 'MUM' on making any comments, responses to the Senate PelAir cover-up inquiry findings. Maybe that's what the 250K was for i.e. to buy his silence??

Timeline of incredulity - Dodgy

How can it be that REX as an independent commercial Aviation company, that prior to 2012 had shunned any association with the ALP, suddenly decide in 2012 to make it's largest political donation ever & since?

From REX Media Release Archive:

 2011
Quote:11 JULY 2011

MEDIA RELEASE

GOVERNMENT MEASURES WILL DECIMATE REGIONAL AIR SERVICES

Regional Express (Rex) today expressed its strong disappointment at the recently announced carbon tax on regional air services.

Rex Chief Operating Officer, Chris Hine, said that regional air services are facing an avalanche of adverse government measures of which the carbon tax is the latest. In addition to the carbon tax those already recently announced by the Federal Government include:
 
? removal of the en-route rebate scheme for regional airlines

? additional fuel excise to increase funding to CASA

? increased security screening at regional ports

"The combined effect of these measures on Rex alone would equate to at least $6m per annum." Mr Hine clarified. "Rex has already announced in its release of 1 June 2011 that the outcome of these measures could be the loss of air services to half a dozen marginal regional ports like Taree and Grafton."

"I foresee many regional operators without the financial strength and diversification of the Rex Group being forced out of business once these take effect after 1 July 2012. Those surviving will have to cut back on marginal routes in order to remain in business. This will unfortunately mean that some regional communities will suffer the loss of their essential air services."

"We call on the Federal Government to consult with regional aviation with the hope that the Government will strongly reconsider its position on regional air services before it is too late. Given the extremely fragile state of regional aviation in Australia today, once an operator goes out of business it could become irreversible as the returns are too slim and uncertain to attract new entrants."

Regional Express (Rex) is Australia’s largest independent regional airline operating a fleet of more than 40 Saab 340 aircraft on some 1,300 weekly flights to 35 destinations throughout New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland. The Rex Group comprises Regional Express, air freight and charter operator Pel-Air Aviation and Dubbo-based regional airline Air Link, as well as the pilot academy Australian Airline Pilot Academy.

There was certainly no love lost between REX & the former miniscule for non-aviation Albo:
Quote:
20 JUNE 2011

MEDIA RELEASE

REX CORRECTS MINISTER ALBANESE

Regional Express (Rex) objects to the spurious allegations by the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport, Anthony Albanese, that were made in Parliament on 14 June 2011 as well as to the media on 16 June 2011 (ABC North Coast news).

Rex Executive Chairman Lim Kim Hai clarified, "The Minister has publicly levelled several false accusations against Rex and it behoves the Rex Board to set the public record straight for the benefit of its stakeholders and public."

Rex lays out the facts:

Anthony Albanese (AA): "Rex has not sought a discussion with me over any of these issues" (Hansard recordings of House of Representative proceedings 14 June 2011, page 130)

Facts: Rex has made several approaches to the Minister’s Office and to the Department of Infrastructure and Transport and has repeatedly expressed its concerns over these issues (including the en-route scheme). Rex also specifically highlighted its concern over regional aviation issues, including the en route scheme, in its submission to the Minister’s aviation green paper in February 2009. More recently Rex has met with the Minister and his Department as follows:

- 17 Feb 2010 - The Rex Deputy Chairman, Managing Director and Senior Management travelled to Canberra to meet Mr. Mike Mrdak, Secretary of the Department, to brief the Department on Rex's concerns. Mr Mrdak was unable to attend at the last minute and designated the Deputy Secretary, Mr. Andrew Wilson, for the meeting. At this meeting several regional aviation issues were raised including specifically the en-route scheme.

- 9 Feb 2011 - The Rex Deputy Chairman and Managing Director met with Moksha Watts, the Aviation Advisor to Minister Albanese, and Mr. Andrew Wilson at the Minister's office in Parliament House. A complete briefing on the threats to regional aviation was given and the presentation material was left with the Minister’s aviation advisor. The Minister was present briefly but did not participate in the briefing due to other commitments.

- 15 Feb 2011 - the Australian Aviation Associations Forum (TAAAF), of which Rex is a member, met with Mr. Mike Mrdak and briefed him on aviation issues of industry concern including the en-route rebate scheme.

- May 2011 - the Regional Aviation Association of Australia (RAAA), where Rex holds a Vice Chairman’s position, met recently with Moksha Watts to again brief her on the en-route scheme.
Jump then to 2012 (the 250K donation year) and the release of the ATSB PelAir cover-up final report:
Quote:3 SEPTEMBER 2012

MEDIA RELEASE

ATSB REPORT ON NORFOLK ISLAND DITCHING

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has released its Final Report on the investigation of the ditching of the Westwind aircraft off Norfolk Island in November 2009 and Pel-Air accepts all the findings of the report.

Pel-Air notes that the ATSB has found that Company procedures and flight planning guidance managed risk consistent with regulatory provisions.

The ATSB has concluded that at the time of flight planning, there were no weather or other requirements that required the nomination of an alternate aerodrome, or the carriage of additional fuel to reach an alternate. Furthermore, the ATSB has found that the aircraft carried sufficient fuel for the flight in the case of normal operations.

The opportunities for improvement identified by the Company and documented in the ATSB report have all been implemented.

Pel-Air Media Contact: Corporate Communications – +61 402 438 361
Not long after Albo's senior adviser emailed Beaker & McComic, to which Beaker replied:
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 Then less than 5 months later it is back to the status quo:
Quote:27 FEBRUARY 2013

MEDIA RELEASE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT POLICIES DECIMATING REGIONAL AVIATION

The Regional Express (Rex) Group today announced its first half FY12/13 results with Profit Before Tax of $12.5 million on a turnover of $135 million.

Commenting on the results, Rex Executive Chairman Lim Kim Hai said that as foreshadowed in the profit warning issued at the AGM on 27 November 2012, the Group’s Profit Before Tax for the period slumped by 32.6% to $12.5 million.

"From the very first month of this FY, we are seeing the catastrophic impact the various draconian government polices are having on regional aviation. Not only have policies like the Carbon Tax increased cost significantly, there has also been a significant drop in passenger numbers due to government policies exacerbating the effects of a fragile global economy."

"Regional aviation has been hit particularly hard. Besides the Carbon tax and consistently high fuel prices, it was also the target of an onslaught of government fiscal and regulatory measures which resulted in the steep decline in the results we see today."

"Many regional carriers are now struggling for survival. If the government does not reverse tack very soon, we will see irreversible damage being inflicted by the destructive policies that they have adopted. "

"Rex will work with the Regional Airline Association of Australia (RAAA) to define critical policy measures that need to be adopted to rescue regional aviation. We will call on both the government and the opposition to state their position on these matters prior to the next election"

With high fuel prices, government imposed costs and slowing passenger demand, Rex is expecting a further degradation of results in the second half of FY12/13. The profit guidance for the full year has been revised downwards to 35-40% below the previous FY.

Regional Express (Rex) is Australia’s largest independent regional airline operating a fleet of more than 40 Saab 340 aircraft on some 1,300 weekly flights to 35 destinations throughout New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland. The Rex Group comprises Regional Express, air freight and charter operator Pel-Air Aviation and Dubbo-based regional airline Air Link, as well as the pilot academy Australian Airline Pilot Academy.

Rex Media Contact: Corporate Communications - +61 402 438 361

Finally prior to the 2013 election:
Quote:3 SEPTEMBER 2013

MEDIA RELEASE

REX WELCOMES COALITION’S POLICY FOR AVIATION

Regional Express (Rex) welcomes the Plan for Aviation (reproduced below) released by the Leader of the Nationals and Shadow Minister for Infrastructure and Transport Warren Truss on 30 August 2013, and urges Labor to similarly state its position before the election.

Lim Kim Hai, Rex’s Executive Chairman said, “The Coalition’s Policy addresses critical areas that have been devastating to aviation, especially in the regional aviation sector, and responds to some issues raised in the aviation policy papers presented by the Regional Aviation Association of Australia, The Australian Aviation Associations’ Forum, and Rex over the last two years.”

“Aviation has been decimated by bad policies and neglect for the best part of the last decade and today it is on its knees with Virgin Australia, Tiger and the Qantas Group all bleeding heavily and in a dangerous tailspin. If Mr Truss gets into government I trust that he will keep his election promises and faithfully carry out the agenda set out in his Aviation Policy. Regional aviation has suffered too much in recent times from broken promises and neglect and deserves better going forward.”

Regional Express (Rex) is Australia’s largest independent regional airline operating a fleet of more than 40 Saab 340 aircraft on some 1,300 weekly flights to 35 destinations throughout New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland. The Rex Group comprises Regional Express, air freight and charter operator Pel-Air Aviation and Dubbo-based regional airline Air Link, as well as the pilot academy Australian Airline Pilot Academy.

Rex Media Contact: Corporate Communications – +61 402 438 361
I guess by then the 250K donation obligations for Albo & the ALP had expired and it was back to Albo's contempt for the aviation industry (as per normal)... Dodgy
MTF...P2 Tongue
Ps I don't think Albo ever took up the REX challenge, and much like this election I don't think Labor ever, as such, published or supported an aviation policy?? - Oh that's right Albo always backed his Great White Elephant paper - wonder if he will still point to that load of bollocks in this election?? Dodgy
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#96
Quote:Money and Influence
By Quentin McDermott, Peter Cronau, Shaun Hoyt
Updated May 24, 2016 10:21:00
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Money and Influence (Greg Nelson ABC)
Monday 23 May 2016


Money and Influence: the shadowy world of political donations.

"We have a system where giving money can influence outcomes and that's a soft form of corruption."

As we head into the third week of the election campaign, Four Corners investigates just how transparent the political parties really are when it comes to revealing who their donors are and what is expected in return.

"What's at stake is simply the quality of our democracy and the ability of people to have faith in their political institutions."

It's a world that operates far from public view with a patchwork of donation laws around the country. A variety of methods are used to keep the identities of donors secret, leaving voters hard pressed to find out just who is funding whom.

"Those sort of enterprises are very useful to people because they enable money to be channelled into political interests without full disclosure and in circumstances where the public can't clearly see that there may be an outcome by virtue of those donations."

Reporter Quentin McDermott, talks to influential figures operating in this world, who speak candidly about their experiences.

"I've spent a significant part of my life raising money in this way...(It) will always be a serious accident waiting to happen." Fundraiser

"I think we were fairly standard in terms of organisations that were seeking to curry favour with our political masters...I think it was fairly plain that that bought access." Donor

"I don't think he gave out of the goodness of his heart, that's for certain." Politician

And in an exclusive interview with Four Corners, the regulator withholding more than $4 million dollars of funding destined for the Liberal party breaks his silence.

Show transcript

Show background information
 Basically put when it comes to the murky world of political donations and the spectre of 'soft corruption', they are all at it... Dodgy

 Coming back to the bizarre REX 250K donation to the federal ALP, when REX repeatedly made claims of a deep loathing of the Labor party and it's former miniscule for non-aviation Albanese, I came across another interesting tit-bit some 6 months after the VH-NGA ditching at Norfolk Island. In reference to this link - HERE - of the official opening of the REX affiliated AAPA (Australian Airline Pilot Academy) on the 27 May 2010.

Take note slide one.. Rolleyes

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{ P2 comment: Why does that date ring a bell??}

Next slide, Albo rubbing shoulders with those damn Tories Big Grin :

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Next slide Albo giving the thumbs up.. Shy :

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And Albo on the official opening plaque Wink :

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All very interesting, totally smacks of cronyism but are REX simply doing what most successful businesses would do in their position, i.e. seeking political favour? 

Hmm...I suddenly remembered why that date rings a bell... Undecided

From the 2nd supplementary submission by CASA to the Senate PelAir cover-up inquiry, Albo's anointed one, McComic attempted to throw the Murky handpicked Muppet Beaker under the bus (note the date): 

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Coincidence maybe but what would the chances be that Albo & Sharpie, the very next day, would not have discussed the potential PR disaster if the so called independent ATSB were to point out systemic failures from both the operator & the regulator in their final report?? Dodgy

Two years later REX was to give the highest political donation in their history (250K), not to the Nationals but to the ALP??  Yeah right - BOLLOCKS! Angry


MTF...P2 Tongue
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#97
In the Supreme Court of Appeal;  21&22nd Nov.

In the Supreme Court of Appeal, between Nov 21 – 22 will stand Karen Casey. A staggering seven years have passed since the ditching of her aircraft, at sea. This singular event has been examined and dissected through:-

•  CASA Special Audit.
•  Chambers Report
•  ATSB First Investigative Report.
•  NTSB Canadian Report.
•  Senate Inquiry and Recommendations.
•  ASRR.
•  Current Second ATSB Investigation.

The results have been less than satisfactory, ‘Zero outcome’ is probably a better descriptor.  This sorry indictment has dragged on through a change of Australia’s government; a change of the ATSB head and through two previous heads of the CASA. Despite the efforts of several Senators and a minister, nothing of any consequence has changed. Although there was hope of questions, which demanded answers, being asked of ATSB last Estimates; Sen. Cameron expected to start proceedings – however – ATSB slipped through the net.

The ‘second’ report into the incident has been tarnished by the actions and attitude of certain ATSB officers; which, stand alone, without the ‘second’ report, should be enough to provoke a second Senate inquiry. But to delay the report until after the Casey appearance at the court of appeal is despicable. The report itself may be of no benefit to Karen now; probably would not even be admitted into evidence – it could however; if it were 'honestly done' provide her counsel with data to support argument.

To me, the truly disgusting thing is that CASA walk away from their despicable behaviour Scot free, well paid, well fed, happy within their sheltered workshop, supported by government. With the full knowledge that their lives will remain secure, comfortable and trouble free; with an unlimited amount of ‘get-out-of goal-free cards’. Make no mistake, the CASA can, does and will in the future continue to enjoy being fully unaccountable to the parliament, the  law, man; or, the gods themselves.

To me, the truly disgusting thing is that ATSB walk away from their despicable behaviour Scot free, well paid, well fed, happy within their sheltered workshop, supported by government. With the full knowledge that their lives will remain secure, comfortable and trouble free; with an unlimited amount of ‘get-out-of goal-free cards’. Make no mistake, the ATSB can, does and will in the future continue to enjoy being fully unaccountable to the parliament, the law, man; or, the gods themselves.

Karen Casey has non of these advantages; injured, in constant pain, unwell and unable, no matter how willing, to support herself. From proud, independent, life loving flight nurse to ‘dependent’ and left to fight the might of these agencies and the 'insurers' alone; to Australia’s everlasting shame..

No matter; there’s little I can do or say which will make a difference – hells bells, the bloody minister and the Senate combined failed to dent the monolith. But it intrigues me that a government operation can tell a minister, a Senate committee, three inquiries and an industry to Fuck off – and get away with it. Makes a hellish statement on the state of a nation, a mockery of parliament and beggars the constitution. Abandon all hope of whatsisname fixing it all up, spoiling the manicure with dirty hands or disturbing the immaculate hair-do with concern for one helpless individual.

Aye well; we can wish Karen all the best in 10 days time; which is, by the by, of neither intrinsic or practical value.    

Selah.
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#98
Update to KazCasey case: Via the other Aunty

Quote:Pel-Air Aviation appeals nurse's $5 million crash PTSD compensation
By court reporter Karl Hoerr
Posted about 4 hours agoMon 21 Nov 2016, 5:16pm

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Pel-Air crash survivor Karen Casey said she has disturbed sleep, flashbacks, and fears flying. (Four Corners)


A Sydney airline is appealing an order to compensate nurse Karen Casey millions of dollars after she developed post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) following a 2009 plane crash.

Ms Casey, 46, was on board a medevac flight when it ditched into the ocean near Norfolk Island in November 2009.

It was transporting an injured patient and her husband from Samoa to Melbourne at the time.

All six people on board survived the crash and were rescued after about 90 minutes in rough seas at night time.

The flight's operator, Pel-Air Aviation, accepted liability for her physical injuries but a NSW Supreme Court judge last year found her PTSD was a "bodily injury", under the Montreal Convention, which governs air crash compensation around the world.
PTSD was therefore found to be compensable, under the convention.

The mother of three was awarded close to $4.9 million.

Airline's lawyers say PTSD is not a bodily injury

Lawyers for Pel-Air have told an appeal hearing, the evidence did not support the findings made by the judge.

According to the original decision, Ms Casey's PTSD "involved an injury to her brain and other parts of her body involved in normal brain function".

Pel-Air argues Justice Monika Schmidt erred in her ruling, because she "did not correctly apply decisions" handed down here and overseas.

The company's appeal submissions also state that Justice Schmidt "misapprehended the expert medical evidence going to the issue".

Four Corners: Crash landing
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In 2012, Four Corners talked to the people on board and those involved in the flight, investigating what really happened that fateful night.

The court heard there have been differing views about the issue in courts in the United Kingdom, but rulings in the United States have been consistent.

Pel-Air's barrister Julian Sexton SC said use of the word "bodily" in the convention, shows that not everything was intended to be classified as an injury.

One of the American judgments refers to "palpable to conspicuous physical injury".
Mr Sexton said the US cases "properly interpret Article 17 (of the convention)".

He told the court, the suggestion in the original judgment that Ms Casey has suffered "organic damage" to her brain, was wrong.

"The expert evidence simply does not support that finding," Mr Sexton said.

'Combined' psychiatric and physical disabilities enough: lawyers

Ms Casey's damages included past economic losses, on the basis that she will never be able to work again.

Pel-Air is challenging this finding, as well as an order that the financial management of her funds be paid for, to the tune of around $500,000.

In their written response to the appeal, lawyers for Ms Casey said: "The combined effect of the conceded psychiatric conditions combined with the physical disabilities is such that the trial judge's award of damages can be supported even without reference to the condition of post-traumatic stress disorder."

Ms Casey gave evidence before Justice Schmidt of disturbed sleep, flashbacks, a fear of getting out of her car and of flying.

The hearing is expected to last two days

Absolutely fucking disgusting that Kaz Casey is being put into this position of having to defend her right to compensation.. Undecided Especially when the true villain in this is repetitive Federal Governments and their severely flawed self-serving, self-preserving aviation safety agencies and Murky's department - UFB & UF-forgivable IMO... Dodgy

MTF...P2 Angry
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#99
Standby for incoming missiles

Fucking Government parasites. This woman, an innocent woman, who as a nurse has spent her years helping others, was injured both physically, mentally and permanently as a result of this accident that was no doing of her own. To say that her 'mental injuries' are not 'bodily' is a complete load of shit. $5m to compensate for the past 8 years and the for the next 24 years is nothing. Oh sure, Politicans with their obscene salaries and crooked deals will make that in a couple of years, but not a hard work underpaid shift working nurse like Karen. Hell she should get $5m just for having to work for that fucked up airline in the first place!

Governments are the most vile, disgusting abberation to be thrust upon mankind next to paedophiles and serial rapists. Absolutely morally corrupt vermin that would rather douse $5m in petrol and light it than see an innocent constituent treated and compensated fairly.

To all the Pollies, cronies, spin doctors, bureaucrats, Beaks, barristers, lawyers, advisors, accounts, and any other associated dross - F..k you all. FFS, open the cheque book, pay the girl what is rightfully hers and let her get on with her life as best she can!!!!!
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Precedent and Judges.

Google “stare decisis”

"1- the legal principle of determining points in litigation according to precedent.
"a doctrine of stare decisis"

And the reason for the huge, expensive appeal become crystal clear. Then, consider carefully the remarks of Justice Monika Schmidt which allowed Pel-Air legal team to argue “erred in her ruling”.  In short, the door was left open for an appeal, enter the dragon.

Once, I heard a judge wrap up a case, where the chance of ‘appeal’ was very real. The closing remarks were lengthy as this wily gentleman carefully, but oh so thoroughly shut out that chance. It was IMO a brilliant piece of work and a valuable lesson to me at least on ‘how’ the law can work both for and against either side of an argument.

"This is a court of law, young man, not a court of justice". ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

Toot – fingers crossed – toot.
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 Undecided The Seven Year Ditch.


How Departmental relationships come and go. Individuals sift in and out. Move forward towards their employment goals. Some leave behind a tornado of mess. 
Most keep their Blinkers to Reality on. Continuing in their ConsciousComa thinking.

Uniting in their Teflon Dome, glances are made, comments whispered and truths tarnished.
Over Seven years, new agency and bureaucratic  relationships have formed with the old ways in situ.

This story, still, with no common sense ending! Suspended in shelved jelly by the non-acccountables.
Seven years, now spilling into eight, is an extraordinary length of time to still have zero outcomes. Despite all the reports/audits/senate etc that have been carried out. All with issues that remain to be addressed.
More concerning is that the Safety Outcomes have been compromised in the disgraceful evolution of the Pel-Air siltuatuon.

The Haunting of some previous individuals and a few current ones.
A complex clan of corrupt players that suffocate any common sense out of the Australian Aviation Portfolio.

A failing System is evident. A system will usually work, mechanically speaking. With the intent to function well and continue a natural progression of improvement.
It's the people in that System which upsets the sequence of it's intended function.
Human factors within this Systemic failure is needed to be microscoped.
Analysis of the behaviour of those involved with the Investigation and their political/bureaucratic ties.

I'm sure the word "narcissistic" would be mentioned a few times along with "pathological" and "detached from the reality of this situation".

Any reasonable Minister would have had this ugly, cruel and unsafe practise remedied. Too much autonomy with their rules and games.
They need to be expelled from their positions and replaced with un-institutionlised minds. 
People who actually give a shit about their industry, can accept accountability, learn and move on. With a swift approach of competence.
It is a shame that after all these years, the conveyor belt of departmental drones remains programmed by the Men of the Institiution of Non-Accountability.

Zig  Heart
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Zig's,

so eloquently put and for our politicians eternal shame, so true.

'nil carborundum illegitimi'.

Maintain the rage girl.
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Ziggy has identified the nub of the problem. The model of governance by a so called independent corporation is a failed model. A statement of expectations by the Minister, every once in a while, and a Board with no power over the CEO, the fatuously termed "Director of Air Safety", has failed dismally. The rules are a disaster, the latest tranche only two years old but 26 years in the making have to be overhauled because they are unworkable. The waste of money has been astronomical, the direct costs to industry and lost opportunity costs would run into billions. Only public profile and political pressure will make any hoped for improvements. Contact your MP and Senators.
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Trough city – here I come.

Sandy – “Ziggy has identified the nub of the problem.”

I’d say just about everyone in the industry has ‘identified’ the problem; this is not a new notion and the country has been falling over it, too lazy to shift it for a quite a while now.

Sandy – “The model of governance by a so called independent corporation is a failed model.”

But, is it ‘failed’?  As far as politicians are concerned it is a resounding success; look at it from DDDD’s and his ‘party’s point of view:-

Chester is almost ‘the’ perfect example of why the system has been so popular with politicians, for so long. Now then , to avoid any bother we’ll invent a ‘suitable’ candidate for our working example: lets call him Mr. Nice Guy – (NG) for short.  This fellah has all the charm and charisma needed to woo the local ladies WVS, the church knitting circle and a couple of car yard owners with money, but wanting more, throw in a couple of local council layabouts and a shady business connection and – we have a candidate. The women go home and nag the menfolk – singing NG’s praises, the ‘cronies’ all get behind the push and; come election time, we have a member – who is obliged and knows he’s obliged. So, he must retain that popularity and look like keeping his promises, those which got him elected. He must now sing for his supper (and super).

Well, through various, nefarious alliances, our hero ends up a minister. Qualifications – zero; experience – zero; ideas – zero. But there he sits – minister of NFI with only one real ambition – retain his seat; his party also want this to maintain their margin. So, our hapless hero needs help. No is problem. Enter the highly paid ‘departmental experts’ to advise, foster and promote NG. All he has to do is keep the smiling photographs pouring through to the electorate – in various poses, from the ‘Statesman’ look, to the ‘wind-swept and interesting; and always look ‘busy’. There is nothing else to worry or care about and most definitely, no thinking allowed: in fact, this is actively discouraged.

It’s when the wheel comes off the wagon that real benefits of the ‘ministerial minder system’ shines through. “ I was badly advised, my highly paid experts, best in the world stuffed it up”. “But don’t worry folks; we have had an inquiry and the perceived problems of probable conflicted interests have been remedied, by me; your candidate for re-elections. Big smile, selfie, toss of the golden mane and it’s back on the horse, no damage done to the candidate, or the party.

Mate, that system is worth every penny of our money shameless, feckless, self interested government pours into it. The fact that the country is going to the dogs just don’t signify – so long as there is no real responsibility for stewardship of the nations well being and a plethora of sacrificial lambs; our hero, NG can sit back, relax and count his benefits – provided the knitting circles and the MKR crowd still ‘love’ him.  Lets face it, that is his real job, to keep his seat for the benefit of his party – nothing else is worthy of consideration – and anyway the team is always on hand to provided the words and answers; if only NG remembers his lines – all is well.

Reporter – “Have you any comment to make on the Casey situation minister?

NG – “oh, is that the poor women hurt in a minor aircraft accident?

Reporter – “Yes minister, that’s the one.

NG – “So sad about that, my experts at CASA and the ATSB assure me that all is well and, the results of my inquiry into the incident will be available sometime within the next 24 months. It is a difficult task for them, as you may know, they are investigating themselves”. “Thankyou – next”.  Big smile, a wave for the drooling masses. {Thinks} - big decision pending – fish of steak for lunch and the blonde or the red-head for dessert; Hmm, life’s tough.

Duck protest, where do I sign up.
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In the aftermath - Confused

For obvious reasons I thought the following posts - off the Accidents - OS thread - worth regurgitating here... Wink :

(12-09-2016, 08:50 AM)Peetwo Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 08:18 AM)Peetwo Wrote:
(12-05-2016, 06:18 PM)Peetwo Wrote: Update 05/12/16: The knock on effect of poor NAA oversight.

Update 08/12/16:
Via Fox News Latino:
Quote:Bolivia arrests Lamia Airlines chief after lack of fuel caused crash that killed 71 people
Published December 06, 2016

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The implications of survival in AAI - Undecided

The following is an excellent article by Joseph Wheeler (courtesy the Oz) which considers the implications for survivors and the further psychological trauma they are exposed to post accident/incident:
Quote:Colombia air disaster survivors endure hearing crash tapes
  • Joseph Wheeler
  • The Australian
  • 12:00AM December 9, 2016
Imagine surviving a catastrophic airline disaster and then having to listen to the news playing sound recordings of those last moments of terror.

It is something the survivors of last week’s air crash tragedy in Colombia regrettably will have to endure.

The crash will long be remembered for the deeply disturbing tapes that have been released outside the context of an official Annex 13 air accident investigation. The nation of Brazil mourns, the sporting world mourns; and the world of air accident investigation mourns the irretrievable cost of leaks of such sensitive recorded information which, properly decoded in context, will be one of the keys to properly determining just what went wrong.

It is not often that there are survivors to such disasters and their evidence about the aircraft’s final flight will also be important in settling the actual events that led to the accident. But think of the life that awaits them: injured, scarred, and robbed of sleep by the moments of terror and sights imprinted into their minds — sights that no one should ever see.

Their futures may be marred by a single night in November when disaster struck, and publicly available information that should never have been made free for all to hear — particularly those recovering as survivors of the crash itself.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world many others experienced a similar kind of terror — the shock precipitated by reportedly severe turbulence that injured seven people as they came to land in Sydney on an Air China flight.

Is there anything in common with the two events as markedly separated as they were in location and cause? It turns out that precisely the same international law potentially applies to both incidents to control the liability of the respective air carriers for death, and injury. In some ways it seems anomalous that a charter flight in South America, a simple point-to-point operation should be in the same category as an international airline’s long-haul flight from Asia to Australia — but the law was designed to make it simpler for those involved to access justice.

In both cases those injured or the families of the victims have recourse against the carrier by way of strict liability (meaning negligence does not need to be proven) with compensation payable to them essentially limited only by their proven financial losses.

In both cases, the essential element of the law applying is the fact that a contract of carriage was in place and the carriage was “international”.

There is a major battle in international air law over the specific circumstances when compensation may be paid for psychiatric injury by air carriers for surviving air passengers — and it is happening in Australia.

The case arises out of the 2009 ditching near Norfolk Island of a medevac aircraft operated between Samoa and Melbourne. Nurse Karen Casey is battling for the right to compensation for her mental injuries, particularly post traumatic stress disorder as a species of “bodily injury” rather than “pure” psychiatric injury.

The distinction is an important one and, because of the nature of international air law, the results of the appeal, presently being decided after a hearing in late November, will certainly have implications for claims made by those survivors who suffer PTSD.

If the appeal succeeds, then the prospect of compensation for PTSD following the terror of surviving an air accident will be lost; if the appeal is dismissed, the decision opens the way for those suffering PTSD (whether in Australia, following severe turbulence, or the jungles of South America, following a crash) to hold the air carrier accountable for the very real mental anguish suffered.

Joseph Wheeler is the principal of IALPG, national head of aviation law at Maurice Blackburn Lawyers, and aviation legal counsel to the Australian Federation of Air Pilots.

MTF...P2 Angel

(12-10-2016, 06:01 AM)kharon Wrote: Well said Mr. Wheeler.

It is most refreshing to read an accurate, concise summary on air accident aftermath, in particular on the legal ramifications. If – gods forbid – but if Australia looses an aircraft the wise words spoken, warning government, will return to haunt.

The world wide aviation industry tries, very hard, to learn the lessons, writ in blood and fire taught by every accident and incident. Nearly every occurrence bring about ‘change’ – in one form or another – as the reasons for the event become clear. Government seems to avoid taking these essential steps, living in a fools paradise, believing it cannot happen here.

Granted, the percentage chances are low, but we have come awfully close the abyss, several times in the last few years and it is a numbers game. The government rump, like it or not, is well and truly exposed. Simply denying that any government agency could be part of the causal chain will not withstand, nor satisfy close examination. There are enough loose ends in the government's knitting to keep a quarrel of lawyers gainfully employed for many years.

The crash in Brazil for example seems, from information available, simple enough to fathom. The aircraft ran out of fuel; pilot error plain and simple. But – the penalties for carrying insufficient reserve failed to act as a deterrent – however; those for declaring a fuel emergency did not fail. Had the crew ‘declared’ they may, just, have squeaked into an area suitable for a survivable landing. Sure, its debatable, but the reality is stark.  The ‘law’ failed to prevent an accident; twice.  It is this failing which must be addressed; more bad law heaped on existing bad law simply creates anarchy. The intent cannot be prevented by the written word. Never could: well, not before the fact anyway.

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While we are at it for the record (& for those who missed it), Senator Xenophon's Estimates QON for an update to the ATSB PelAir cover-up reinvestigation was actually answered by the due date. However the AQON was just a copy off the ATSB website's latest obfuscated bollocks update:
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The investigation team is now finalising the draft report and has started an internal review process. Once the internal review is completed, the report will be handed to the ATSB Commission for their consideration and approval. The ATSB will then provide the draft report to directly involved parties for their comment and feedback. Given the broad-ranging and complex nature of the investigation, and the size of the report, the draft report is now expected to be released to directly involved parties in early 2017.

The investigation process has required a cycle of continuing review of the evidence and the acquisition of new evidence as knowledge gaps and new lines of enquiry have been identified. Further, the ATSB has not sought to confine the scope of the reopened Norfolk Island investigation in the way that it normally would to manage its overall investigation outputs recognising the interests of all parties involved, as well as the Senate Inquiry and the Canadian Transportation Safety Board review of the original ATSB investigation.

A significant amount of detail is required to explain the findings, which are based on a rigorous application of the ATSB’s analysis methodology. To date, the investigation team has acquired and analysed an extensive range of evidence as part of the new investigation. This includes:

• reviewing evidence from the ATSB’s original investigation, and obtaining and reviewing evidence from CASA’s investigation of the accident, CASA’s special audit conducted soon after the accident

• recovering and analysing data from the aircraft’s flight recorders

• re-interviewing the flight crew and medical crew from the accident flight, and conducting over 30 additional interviews, including with 14 Pel-Air Westwind pilots, eight other Pel-Air personnel and six CASA personnel

• obtaining and analysing wind and temperature data, and integrating this information with Flight Data Recorder data, Cockpit Voice Recorder data, Air Traffic Control data, flight crew interviews and refuelling records to provide the best estimate of the aircraft’s fuel status during the accident flight

• obtaining and analysing 8 years of Westwind flight records from the operator’s fleet to examine fuel management aspects for different types of flights, particularly flights to remote aerodromes and air ambulance flights. This also involved obtaining and analysing meteorological information and other information for several flights

• obtaining and reviewing a substantial amount of documentation from the operator, including documentation from the operator’s safety management group meetings, selected samples of incident/hazard/fatigue reports, audit reports, flight crew training records for 18 Westwind pilots, and duty periods for all Westwind pilots for the 6 months prior to the accident

• obtaining and reviewing 10 years of CASA documentation associated with the operator’s Air Operator Certificates

• reviewing documentation from the air traffic services’ providers in Fiji and New Zealand about their policies and procedures for the provision of flight information, and how these were applied during the accident flight. Information was also obtained and analysed regarding how operations in Reduced Vertical Separation Minimum airspace were conducted.

The re-opened investigation has also involved many other activities, some of which have been outlined in the ATSB’s progress web updates.

The ATSB recognises the importance of being able to demonstrate that the reopened investigation addresses identified areas for improvement with the original investigation. Given the size of the report and the complexity of many of the issues, it is difficult to predict how long the draft review and final report processes will take, although it is likely to extend beyond those typical of more routine investigations/reports. After the draft report review process is complete, the ATSB should have a better understanding of a more specific likely timing for the release of the final report.
    
Which was dutifully rehashed by the slightly less invisible Manning at the extra Supp Estimates hearing:



Quote:Senator McCARTHY: Thank you. On Pel-Air, where is the Pel-Air reinvestigation report?

Mr Hood: Thank you for the question. In my opening remarks, which I have tabled—

Senator McCARTHY: I have them here.

Mr Hood: The accident occurred when I was involved in regulatory oversight with the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. Prior to my appointment as the chief commissioner of the ATSB, I declared to the minister and to the ATSB commission a potential or perceived conflict of interest in relation to my involvement and approval in that report. With that in mind, the proposal I put forward to the minister and to the commission is that Captain Chris Manning would be the commissioner who would be responsible for the ongoing approval of and release of that report. As a result of this committee and the ASRR, the Aviation Safety Regulation Review, which recommended the appointment of an aviation commissioner, Captain Manning is the first aviation commissioner of the ATSB. He is a former chief pilot at Qantas and the former president of the Australian and International Pilots Association. So he is very well-qualified in this area. With respect to my conflict of interest—or perceived or potential—Captain Chris Manning and the other aspect are being cared for by Pat Hornby, who is the manager of our legal services, so for any questions I will defer to those two.

Senator McCARTHY: Where is the reinvestigation report is at?

Capt. Manning: An investigation update was put on the ATSB website yesterday. That goes into a time line and to what is being done. It is a significant update. It says that the draft report, which is the first iteration, should be ready, and I expect will be ready, early in January. The three commissioners then look at it. That normally takes a week but this report is in excess of 300 pages. Assuming that the report passes that step, it then goes to the directly involved parties, who are people and companies directly affected by the report. They normally get 28 days reply, but it is not unusual to ask for an extension, especially given it is in the January/February area and the length of this report. It would not surprise me if they had an extension. Depending upon their replies—whether they are issues of fact or comment—then the final report is written.

Mr Hornby: If I may, we have a copy of the investigation update that went onto our website. I can table that.

Senator McCARTHY: Thank you, Mr Hornby. Given that that information went up yesterday and, obviously, with over 300 pages to read there is quite a significant amount to read there, what steps might have been taken on the 26 recommendations from the Senate inquiry arising from the incident? Or are you saying that that—

Capt. Manning: All of the inquiries and all of the comments have been taken into consideration. That is one reason why, obviously, the report is extremely detailed—because the ATSB fully acknowledges that they have to be all answered.
 
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